It covers the entire continental United States and extends through Central America and Brazil into Argentina. Examples of present-day submarine bases include HMNB Clyde, le Longue (the base for France's Force ocanique stratgique), Naval Submarine Base Kings Bay, Naval Submarine Base New London, and Rybachiy Nuclear Submarine Base (near Petropavlovsk-Kamchatsky).. INS Vajrabahu and INS Satavahana are the submarine . It is noteworthy in the first place that the government So are any of you going to try and explain the fact that the area is approximately 3960 feet above sea level yet maintains its water level? Puerto Rico? If it were 1600 feet deep that would put the bottom of the lake about 4600 feet above sea level. Copyright 2023 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved. powered tunneling machines. building these 129 bases day and night, unceasingly, since the early A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. A submarine base is a military base that shelters submarines and their personnel.. Reply posted on 16-9-2007 @ 07:38 PM by ZORGON. The aircraftwas ordered to beshot down. to talk of massive underground installations in places like Area There have also been rumors that there is an underground facility in the area. 7. *********************************** I wouldnt dough the possibility of 200 mile+ underground river and channels. More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/hawthorne.htm, http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1479/flyingmranchatsauy1.png, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. with deep underground military bases. The Holland Torpedo Boat Company of New York City contracted Union Iron Works to build the two Plunger-class submarines. Many other types of TBMs are used by many government agencies, Also, because of recent international events which may have resulted in a solution to this problem. And yet a third patent was issued to the United States Energy Theologically speaking, the possibility of a long-distance connection or communion on a deep, emotional level between a husband and a wife should not necessarily be consigned to the realm of the occult or psychic phenomena. Maybe there is some kind of access from the surface of the desert within the area occupied by the Naval Undersea Warfare Center. conventional TBMs. Note that the material sent to us for this article was written by someone of very high repute whose credentials I personally checked out.Due to an agreement with him, I cannot reveal his identity. Security for the 3,000 bunkers at NAD was provided by the U.S. Marine Corps. I was going to ask her if there were any submarines parked underground but she was Army and I figured she probably wouldnt have known. (SSBN-733) USS Nevada (SSBN-733) off the United States East Coast on her commissioning day, 16 August 1986. Austin foresaw that Rock-Site bases could be ideal for industrial uses such as fossil-fuel production and deep-sea mining. tunneling activities. pumping an equivalent amount of WATER into the ground to the amount of oil and water taken out, in order to keep the city AFLOAT!. all are between 2.66 and 4.25 cubic miles in size. Over the past 20 years I have heard stories of a huge U.S. Navy submarine base under the desert in Hawthorne Nevada. supplied by a compact nuclear reactor. Most of the entrances are too small for submarine investigation; and many that are large enough lie in waters that are too deep. In such heady times, dreams of colonizing the continental shelf within a generation seemed like sober predictions. is a transportation system connecting underground installations together. It was reported to have been lost IN OPEN SEA ELSEWHERE to keep the American people in total ignorance and to justify an enormous pay-off to an eccentric U.S. billionaire (who died in recent years) for providing the fictitious recovery effort. Most of the entrances lie just off the Continental Shelf (ie. This reduced the need to return to permanent bases farther away. var sc_invisible=1; Construction began on Hawthorne NAD in July 1928, and NAD received its first shipment of high explosives on October 19, 1930. The first section of this page was written by Phil Schneider: Photo According to one legend, it wasnt merely hydrophones the Navy ran from Point Sur, but submarines themselves based in giant man-made caverns dug into the rock. Tram and gondola. The first two, USSF-1(SS-20) and *USSF-2(SS-21) were built by Union Iron Works. cost effective to use NSTMs than mechanical TBMs? In 1928 directed the establishment of a Board of Officers to provide oversight of the storage conditions of explosives. Many religions believe that the very spiritual natures of a husband and a wife are united upon the consummation of a marriage, and thus they become, as Christian teachings say, one flesh. I would very much like more information on this topic. 40. Would you believe people are so blind that they still dont get it even when its REPORTED in the LA Times in 1972? underground tunnels and chambers, Little Greys or "EBEs", and Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? Well if THAT isnt enough documentation on just ONE of the things John says, then there is no help for you and please feel free to laugh it up, And dont give me that nonsense about Just because they issued a patent doesnt mean, BS!!! I told her that I hadnt had time to take a picture and that I was just happened to be leaving at that moment. Williams continues: When he retired several years ago, in spite of about 10 years of intensive Naval study, the Navy had not gotten even a handle on their exacts and dimensions. Where is everybody? we asked the manager. They have laser-drilling Busted Mugshots New Hanover County. The ship's depot would have all the supplies that the submarine needed to get back on patrol. The USS Holland was based at Hamlet's Holland Torpedo Boat Station, open from 1899 to 1905. I have no reason to doubt the man. Its a big desert with many possibilities. the inventors are from Los Alamos, New Mexico. By Hans M. Kristensen. It states: " (D)ebris may be disposed of as In the 1970s the Los Alamos National Lab investigated an atomic rock-drilling concept called the Nuclear Subterrene, which like Rock-Site sounds like something out of Johnny Quest, but also really happened. The community of Hamlet in New Suffolk, New York claims to be the first submarine base in the United States. United States F-class submarine were built by the Electric Boat in 1909. some of its heat. But as history has proven time and again, even the weirdest fantasies have their real-life counterparts. the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. presently answer. Navy Sets Up New Facility For Tunnel-Warfare Training : http://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/issues/2002/Nov/Navy_Sets_Up.htm. . Is there a vast underground sea under California and Nevada with tributary rivers running in various directions? 3,693,731 dated Sept. 26, 1972). A WELL-KNOWN U.S. nuclear submarine lost its way in these passages and disappeared forever. melted rock both as a lining for the hole and as a dispersal in The nuclear subterrene (rhymes with 'submarine') was designed at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, in New Mexico. On 16 October 1900, the USS Holland departed for her first port, United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland for crew training. It sank up to 26 feet and dikes had to be built to keep out the water. Maybe the Pacific Ocean extends under that shelf to Hawthorne Nevada (and even further?). In the decades since Austins study, industry has created the tools need to realize his vision. ' The club house is a favorite meeting place for local decision-makers. Branton) submarine commander, who according to him, spent many years in the waters off California. She then advised me that she should call the Military Police to confiscate my camera. underground military bases in the United States. He told me that the techs that worked in the tubes were called tubemoles. The tunnels are so spread out that the job takes a full day. Hawthorne Army Depot is located in the west central part of Nevada close to the California state line. The rock-melting drill materials against the excavation walls to provide, when Divers have traveled along an underground river 27 miles toward the Las Vegas area before having to turn around.. Ive heard of saline lakes in California, Mono lake comes to mind : Chapter 36 - The Final Invasion of the U.S.?? Im proud to show you a very cool sign of one of the biggest underground, I searched the forum before and there was no match for it. And because the terrain is so rugged, he added, the trip often involves a flat tire or two. The U.S. Marine Corps actually already uses another underground bunker complex in Norway, near the city of Trondheim, to store vehicles and other equipment to support rapid deployments. Other early Submarine Tenders, Auxiliary Submarine ship, known as "AS", were USS Alert (AS-4), USS Camden (AS-6) US Rainbow (AS-7) and USS Canopus (AS-9). In 1998-1999, the facility was used to destroy the U.S. stockpile of M687 chemical artillery shells and separate from them their 505 tons (458 metric tons) of binary precursor chemicals. The passageways are labyrinthine with widths from a few to thousands of feet (caverns), averaging roughly about a 100 feet. The next two, F-3 and F-4 were built by Moran Brosthers in Seattle, Washington in 1912. In the early 1990s, a bunker detonated for no discernible cause unless it was provoked by a lightning storm the previous day. By 1950 nearly 2,500 people still lived in government housing at nearby Babbitt, but even as the Korean War broke out, the boom was over. at the Nevada Test Site. range can be more economically excavated by NSTMs than by presence, and the tunnels they make, could be very hard to detect, large tunnels in soft rock or wet, clayey, unconsolidated or planning for an actual covert tunneling project that was Is there a possibility that the Navy does operate submarines from Monterey Bay via an underground sea which extends underneath the San Joaquin Valley, then under the Sierra Nevada mountain range to a Naval Undersea Warfare Center deep below the Nevada desert in Hawthorne Nevada? you for your help. We were very close. were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical I know he lovedloves me. Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. The nuclear subterrene (rhymes with 'submarine') was designed at the Babbitt. melts the rock. I have no reason to doubt the man. This is the "Unholy 6" base of the Orions. Tunnels: Using the abandoned mines at China Lake, U.S. units can learn how to operate in such environments, Manofsky said. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? I believe one is used for each direction, one going in and one coming out. At by means of hydrostatic pressure developed in the molten rock Williams explains that not all of the areas in question are actually resting or floating on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean cavities below the western U.S., and they are not limited to California, and many of them consist of very large water-filled aqua-systems. Maybe those lost subs found passage to the inner earth and decided to stay there rather then come back or maybe they where captured who knows but its fun to think about it. of Lancaster. I dont know, he said. 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Austins dream remains both sober and dazzlingly novel. My sources tell me that the area you speak of is serviced by the high speed ( supersonic) mag trains that crisscross the country. A penalty of 30 percent was found Day & Zimmermann Hawthorne Corporation (DZHC) is the current operating contractor. faded away. In the United States there's at least, by conservative estimates, a quarter of a trillion to a half a trillion of illegal drugs just sold in the United States that goes directly into underground budgets, and 90-95% goes to the DUMBs [Deep Underground Military Bases]. nuclear powered, 2,000 degree Fahrenheit (1,100 Celsius) earthworm, Babbitt. diameter or more. Research and Development Administration just 21 days later, on 27 satisfied that the thing in question actually works! States. The peak number of US submarine bases was during World War II, as the submarine was well suited for fighting in the vast Pacific War, often in enemy waters. The town of Hawthorne, Nevada harbors a big 18-mile x 8-mile lake called Walker Lake. the tunnel by the tunnel machine, where it will form a hard, glassy A short time later Steve Fossettturns up missing. Your tour ends at the Walker Lake Country Club, where a beautiful 9-hole golf course (open to the public) was the best-kept military secret in America for 50 years. The need for US submarine bases was created with the completion of the first submarine USSHolland launched in May 1897. Babbitt was named for the 2nd Commander of NAD Hawthorne, H.S. I have seen copies of documentation that at least prove that he was a high ranking Naval officer (nuclear submarine duty) and a distinguished scientist. HWAD claims to be the Worlds Largest Depot and is the largest industrial activity in the state of Nevada. One enterprising firm servicing the offshore renewables industry has designed a remote drilling rig for planting monopile anchors on the seafloor, while others are developing entire subsea electrical grids. The Rock-Site concept also bore much in common with NASAs designs for underground moon bases. Did the Navy ever actually pursue the Rock-Site concept at Point Sur or elsewhere? He definitely cannot be labeled as a crackpot, lunatic or publicity-seeker. thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and forming And it evokes a mystery one involving secret underground naval bases, high-tech submarines and Cold War nuclear brinkmanship. This 1975 patent further specifies that A number of patents were filed by scientists at Los Alamos, a few federal technical documents were written - and then the whole thing just sort of faded away. Construction began on Hawthorne NAD in July 1928, and NAD received its first shipment of high explosives on October 19, 1930. When oil companies began pumping oil out of the ground beneath Long Beach it was soon learned that the entire city BEGAN SINKING INTO THE OCEAN! The facilitys area 147,000 Acres (Leased/Owned) and .6M Sq. John revealed its the location and he thinks the Base Commander was pissed. For three and half years the two submarines operated out of Mare Island Naval Shipyard in San Francisco Bay for training and testing. Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert ? 1940's. I mentioned to her that I was just going to take a picture of the sign which was less than ten feet from the highway. later only a wild coincidence? initial support and final lining in conjunction with the In 1980, HWAAP was redesigned as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. Located in Balaklava, in the Crimean Peninsula, lies a former top-secret military base. I'm sure there are large underground submarine pens, but tunnels from the pacific to HAWTHORNE nv, come on. about this activity. Though quite far down ( + 70 kilometers), if it were an insulating layer ( some postulate water) and if some technology had been able to reach it, a way to traverse great distances by stealth would be feasible. Then, after 15 years of . Maybe there is some kind of access from the surface of the desert within the area occupied by the Naval Undersea Warfare Center. After further inquiries to Mr. Williams on the part of inner earth researchers, Williams responded with the following when asked whether or not he had received any replies to his request for more information about the alleged passageways below California: Since publishing our article on the vast cavern network under much of California, we have received many responses and inquiries. We will merely state that it involves a scenario similar to that which was portrayed in a, 9. One response was from a retired (conventional submarine duty? You certainly don't see any obvious Navy transports above ground like you see Air Force Transports. The United States Atomic Energy Commission and the United States And the lake itself certainly wouldnt be big enough or deep enough to train for Undersea Warfare. And those who dive for Atlantean gold sometimes surface with treasure. A court of inquiry investigating the explosion recommended that a depot be established in a remote area within 1,000miles (1,600km) of the west coast to serve the Pacific area. I ******************* It's not coming from our regular Black Op budget. Ive heard of saline lakes in California, Mono lake comes to mind : http://www.monolake.org/, Topic started on 17-3-2007 @ 11:23 AM by allMIGHTY, http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread273017/pg1, GO TO : http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4096/base02oo2.th.jpg. stories of deep, secret, glass-walled tunnels excavated by laser for the 3.05 meter (10 foot) tunnel using the NSTM. tunnel system. Dulce forms a lower point of a Triangle SSE from Uinta Basin and SE from Hawthorne. More Cave and Tunnel Entrances of the Americas, The Secrets of the Mojave: Or, The Conspiracy Against Reality, 2015: According to the Macuxi Indians of the Amazon: Theres An Entire World Inside Our Planet, 1992: Underground Bases in Southern California. He stated that the caverns do NOT exist. Once a month, our reservists go out and do a data sweep, Manofsky said. Fort Huachuca. History: In 1977, NAD was transferred to the Army, and renamed the Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant (HWAAP). be very cost effective, compared to conventional TBMs. Per John Lear: the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Hawthorne Nevada access the West Coast using underground elevators and train. made by the nuclear subterrenes described in these patents. ************************************ The USS Holland was acquired by the Navy 11 April 1900. The pictures appear to show a Type 093 nuclear-powered attack submarine enter a tunnel to an underground entrance located on Yulin Naval Base. conveyor, slurry pipeline, etc. Ubehebe Crater system contains several volcanic craters, cinder cones and ash hills, all relics from an explosive steam eruption about 2,000 years ago, when rising magma met an underground lake. liquid lithium from the reactor core to the tunnel face, where it When the BIG ONE finally hits, many scientists in the know believe that most of California will break off like a cold Hershey bar and slide into the ocean! There is definately one at Walker Lake. Floor Space. The cost Well after Zorgon and me found that plasma nuclear reactor at Aristarchus on the moon Ill believe anything. Most people think Im crazy when I say this, but I believe the Thresher was captured., I cant say for sure, but there WAS a Russian submarine spotted near there that day (that is, near where it REPORTEDLY vanished 220 miles off Boston harbor so either the Thresher DID sink there, off Boston harbor OR the government created an elaborate cover story of it sinking off the east coast when in fact it went through the Panama canal and disappeared near the west coast, or BENEATH the west coast or, IF the Thresher did disappear off of Boston harbor, then the nuclear sub that disappered in the aqua-caves of California may have been yet another possibly top secret submarine. The Naval Ammunition Depot Hawthorne was established in September 1930. During that time I have driven from Las Vegas to Reno many times and was always intrigued at the guard gate and sign just before entering the town of Hawthorne. NOT A SINGLE TRACE or clue as to the fate of the craft, or its occupants, were ever recovered: no oil slicks, radiation, floating debris, or similar signs of wreckage were ever seen. National Lab is itself the subject of considerable rumors about Below is a chart on which I have drawn two lines representing these channels between Monterey Bay and Hawthorne. The heat is supplied by a compact nuclear reactor that circulates Facilities include 178 Buildings and 2,427 Igloos. [7] There are two different modes of transportation. WOW! Gila Mountain Area, south of Interstate 8 and approx. I am in the process of looking for this input; its been several years now and it may have all been thrown out Incidentally, the oil company seismic data had much data round the Fresno area if that helps any. In 1977, that number had been reduced to 117; security is contracted to a private company. The demand for submarine bases during World War 2 was so great that many specially built submarine tenders were built. Wonders how many disappeared, before it was fenced off? We have bunkers; we have multilevel tunnel complexes; we have vertical shafts just like youll find over there. *********************** ", (U.S. Patent No. But I know nothing about submarines. Whether or not nuclear subterrene tunneling machines have been used, The three tunnel A.A. Mathews calculated costs for constructing three different sized As for the. There you have it: a tunneling machine that creates no muck, and leaves a smooth, vitreous (glassy) tunnel Im here in Laughlin area and frequently drive back home to the high desert from the high desert, lol. piles or tailings dumps that are associated with the conventional The Transamerican Underground Subshuttle System (T.A.U.S.S.) The story does sound a bit fantastic but I have no reason to doubt the man. Yes. + Tehachapi Ranch35 20 N., 118 40 W. 25 miles N.W. If so, then sry, 1982/83. I wonder about the Moho discontinuity-an area below the surface that seems to deflect/bend seismic Wavesin a way that geologists and seismologists havent really been able to explain. One wonders what might have happened had the Navy put its nuclear expertise to work drilling holes in the ocean floor. In 1980, HWAAP was redesigned as a government-owned contractor-operated facility. INDIA'S UNDERGROUND SUBMARINE BASE & 20 NEW SUBMARINES: TOP 5 FACTSPROJECT VARSHAIntroduction:A new naval base being developed under Project Varsha for the I. Growth since has been slow, and today the ammunition depot plays a diminishing role in Hawthornes economy, although its bunkers still pimple the desert as they have for more than 75 years. the tunnel face. A 1971 study discussed various methods of sea-floor excavation, but by then most man-in-the-sea development was classified. 9. reply posted on 2-9-2007 @ 10:59 PM by MountainStar, Melting Antarctica Ice Reveals UFO Underwater Base. The underground Pasha Liman Base submarine base of the Albanian navy in the Adriatic coast, a secret military facility also built during the Cold War. On April 10, 1963 (according to official reports) the Thresher, under the command of Lt. And where's this money coming from? 5. However, some knowledgeable person could probably deduce his (or her) overall map from the voluminous seismographical data sent. He is now living quietly in, Williams explains that not all of the areas in question are actually resting or floating on the ocean, however there are allegedly many subterranean, 6. shown in Illustration 41). Some of these responses appear to be knowledgeable sources. Lake tahoe is 1600 feet deep and it would be interesting if anySEA SALTcould be detected in the water.. Seven submarines built by the Holland Torpedo Boat Company were stationed at Hamlet. This map might help: http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1479/flyingmranchatsauy1.png. Some of them look exactly like Afghan aqueducts.. Recent research on hardened missile basing concepts have proven various techniques for creating submarine-sized structures in hard substrates. core by thermal melting a boundary kerf into the tunnel face and . too. The town of Hawthorne, Nevada harbors a big 18-mile x 8-mile lake called Walker Lake. Drew Thompson, a former US Department of Defence official, told CNN it was an unusual sight. and Engineering Company of Rockville, Maryland produced a So it would seem. By applying well-understood principles employed for decades by the mining industry, Austin proposed that large bases could be constructed and operated anywhere suitable bedrock occurred in the ocean, at any depth. One of the monuments is an underground, formerly classified submarine base that was operational until 1993. is a $13 million tunnel boring machine (TBM) used for tunneling provide, when solidified, a continuous liner; and fragmenting Lake Denmark, New Jersey, was blown off the face of the earth by a huge explosion at the naval ammunition depot there (in 1926), and Congress wanted to find some less valuable real estate for the new one. It is interesting to note that almost all of the reports at the time stated the ship had disappeared, or was lost, not sunk! One woman whose husband was on the ill-fated ship reported her belief that her husband was still ALIVE! Due to an agreement with him, I cannot reveal his identity. USS Nevada (SSBN-733) is a United States Navy Ohio -class ballistic missile submarine that has been in commission since 1986. Fulton class was followed by the Griffin Class in 1941, Aegir-class in 1943, Hunley-class submarine tender] in 1962, Simon Lake-class in 1964, L. Y. Spear-class in 1970, Emory S. Land-class in 1974, Emory S. Land Class in 1979. It is approximately two hours southeast of Reno on US Highway 95. The melted rock will be forced to the outside of Do these tunnels connect to the NIDS Ranch in the Uinta Basin in NE Utah and to Dulce New Mexico? While NASA gathered ever more momentum with monthly Gemini flights and a new Mission Control, the success of Sealab II and the CONSHELF III underwater habitat led to a presidential commission on oceanography and a bigger undersea commitment. Topic started on 1-9-2007 @ 01:29 AM byJOHN LEAR : http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread300230/pg1. It was redesignated Hawthorne Army Ammunition Plant in 1977 when it transferred to Army control as part of the Single Manager for Conventional Ammunition. He was on Coast to Coast AM on 16 February 2007 : Hollow Earth Expedition http://www.ourhollowearth.com/VoyagetoHollowEarth.htm, ************************************** The facilitys area 147,000 Acres (Leased/Owned) and .6M Sq. Tunneling costs for NSTMs are very trains that have speeds up to Mach 2. This machine would also be capable of Maybe that little nuclear powered Fast Attack Sub.