As for the wrong password entry. The last photo of Kris on the rocks doesnt appear to have any evidentiary value to me. Where did u see that picture ? An explosion in tourism has saved Iceland's economy. However, its still possible. I think that I read somewhere that something blue was found on one of the shoes. Sometimes I refer back to the Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, the two girls that made international headlines in 2014 when they disappeared in the northwest region of Panama. This tells me that they had a time in their minds of what time to leave to get back to their host home in Boquette. Hi Kevin, Occums razor only applies when all facts are available. I know that its highly irregular for 17 foreigners to uproot their lives and relocate to the obscure jungles of Panama, especially for the purpose of sacrificing locals (whom are often Catholic). The lower orange being around the belly area. Its up to the public now the government closed the case 6 years ago. This link answers some of those questions: Kris Kremers Case: The People Involved (Reference Guide). That is the big picture of this case. Particularly given that you have very admirable aspirations for what you intend to do by investigating the trail on the ground. Whatever happened and if it did not include a third party must have been serious and traumatic because we live in selfie times and as can be seen from their earlier fotos they were in the selfie zone. Hi Chris, great work by you on this. It took us quite some time to get there, the authors explain to The Daily Beast. I wish there were more answers to what happened. The limited number of attempts especially on the first day is very strange. Lisanne sets up a SOS with toilet paper and a mirror, hoping to get the attention of the helicopters. Excellent editing work, thanks to Justin. They are free now. Seems weird. If you can rule out getting lost or falling off the trail in that circle, all my money is on foul Unfortunately we dont have a lot of answers to your questions. Wonder if it could be a piece of an aircraft wreckage. Does anyone know what the orange string is on the left of the photo? There is no question thats what it is. And if other people learn too much, they get killed too. So easily noticeable. In the yellow circle could be just a leaf, but not in the red one. Hands tied behind her back, face looks a bit puffy too, as if been in an altercation of sorts. Here are some ideas Ive speculated about. View our online Press Pack. The girls went for a swim in a rock pool. And one of the branches near the middle appears to have scales or a pattern not natural to a tree branch. It most certainly is not a joke. Then there are no images until April 8, when 90 unsettling nighttime pictures were taken with flash in the middle of the jungle with timestamps between 1:00 and 4:00 AM. I hope justice is found for these girls, so very sad & just horrifying. Theres no denying that the face looks skewed and mask like. I also see something above the brown circle, like a ring of colored balls or ???? For other inquiries, Contact Us. I could be wrong, but to me this looks like it could be a hunting device of sorts, like a pit/catch trap. Before that, in image 507 & 508, you can see Kris in a stiff, nervous posture, because the girls saw someone they were afraid of closing in. However, if Kremers and Froon had found manmade ramshackle structures during their hike, such as the possible items viewed in this photo, its possible they had unwanted company. Shes just exploring. They are really good, especially parts 3 and 4, which give a lot of information about the girls photos. The world may never know what happened to the pair, but speculation still runs wild. I implore those who are intrigued by this to read his books. He even found pictures of the suspect and a local model wearing Kriss blue shirt right after the disappearance. I just want to agree with Chris and the poster JW that she is shading her eyes with her right arm up. On April 1, the 21-year-old and 22-year-old went for a walk . Especially the beams and details, and the cave behind her. The camera had a video function this could have been used including of course sound. Obviously she did the first several times, but as the battery got lower, she likely got more conscious of the idea of conserving it. I think this photo in particular is odd. My question is: Who has the ability to manipulate both the cameras internal storage database and the photos? They took the dog with them on the walk and it came back the next morning but they didnt there had to have been some clues maybe like how far could the dog have gone and still find its way back home? The authors told The Daily Beast: "It actually came as a surprise to us too, but our conclusion had to be that it was an accident. She looks disorientated almost. This case certainly is perplexing, as many of the disappearances Ive written about. Seems like no one has taken off in the direction of the dog and what it could have offered us. But there are a few holes in this particular theory. Two Dutch women who went missing in April in Panama are now confirmed dead, according to police and the women's families. WHY? I dont know if youve noticed this or not. ), podran darnos explicaciones de la posicin del cuerpo, de las manos y la expresin del rostro en la foto 506. Tony and Debra Velleman are pictured in an undated image. Maybe someone had her in there sitting on the rock, and she heard them coming back and got up quickly to turn around. Im happy my work could shed some light on the possible items in the picture. Take care. It is high noon and they have no way of telling which direction to go. Thats from her palm. There are over 30 fingerprints on the blue backpack which belongs to one of the girls, but they dont want to investigate the fingerprints. This case is certainly not finished. We have no police report to read which its self may also contain errors. It holds a bad energy. I created this graphic and highlighted the unusual items that seemed peculiar to me: In this photo of what looks like a cave or overgrown ravine, there are numerous possible items that suggest this place had been visited by other people. Im baffled as to why this case hasnt been investigated more, if not for protecting an indigenous tribe. Ive written about dozens of stories involving incompetence of law enforcement in disappearance cases. Why are both her hands behind her back? I have one questions for you, regarding the 90 photos taken at night: if these were not taken by one of the girls in an attempt to provide light or whatever, what possible purpose could anyone else, such as an attacker, have in taking these photos? I think the girls were made or persuaded against their wishes and by persons unknown, to go beyond the end of the Pianista trail to goodness knows where! I like the wit and sarcasm. It is cooler at those altitudes but also inside the forest it will be more humid. See the State Department's travel website for the Worldwide Caution and Travel Advisories. That would account for a canopy structure being built there. I think Kris and Lisanne were two smart, savvy, levelheaded young women. Also and I am assuming the phones where in their possession the phones actually did acquire a signal some times but clearly they were not being used so they did not know. They talk as if it would be difficult to branch off the trail, but maybe they did not notice other paths that could have been taken? Thats what I see as well. If so, they may have wandered across the field looking for the original path back and got themselves well and truly lost. Their families went to the police to. The bag contained her camera as well as two pairs of sunglasses, $83 in cash, Froons passport, a water bottle, two bras, and both womens phones. Sadly, shortly after, she meets someone she fears and call the police. I think it would be a mistake to assume Lisanne knew her friends password. Lisanne would gave definitely called her mother AT LEAST ONCE because, listen to this this is from her own diary written just two days before their disappearance: Regardless of who created it, the fact is that the women made emergency phone calls shortly after they visited this place. Missing Lynn Haven juveniles. They showed an incredibly brave independence which was repaid with murder. There are too many variables involved, so I dont speculate much about the dog. I know if I was hiking and wandering in the jungle (and presumably possibly lost although not quite realizing this at this point), I would be curious about a manmade structure like this. There are dead animals and skeletons strewn all across the ground. The girls took photos of so many things, even many mundane thingsbut for some reason the dog wasnt present in any of the photos. In Latin America, it is as common as drinking coffee. Like so many other people I really, really wish we could find the answers to this mystery. Kris Kremers, 21, and Lisanne. Could be that the path turns sharp right or left (out of the frame) or continues up ahead after a short scramble. To inquire about a licence to reproduce material, visit our Syndication site. That way, no downloads are necessary. And if suspects were clicking photos, and knew how to operate a smartphone, they would not return the phones. The police, the media attention, the suspicions on him. Fact. For pareidiologists, in the Cave photo on the right just over halfway from Kris head to the edge of the photo there is an arm and hand tied to a tree, and to the right of Kris leg is the sole of a walking boot with a light stripe down the middle. The 3 of them died shortly after being in contact with the girls. I think the look on her face isnt scared, but she looks to maybe be in wonder that they found a place like that? Someone was with the girls when the two photos of them were taken on the Pianista summit. It also contained Lisanne's camera and both of their phones. All very different from the happy silly girlie pictures at the beginning. Hard noncontroversial evidence is very limited and what there is is open to interpretation. Its difficult to see when glancing at the photo, because it looks like Kriss head is referencing something the ground. The critical time is between the last foto and the first SOS call. There is much speculation about the night time fotos made using the Cannon. Why are you not sharing their photo number, why are you stating generalities, let me help you, there is a link with all the photos https://koudekaas.blogspot.com/2019/12/the-disappearance-of-kris-kremers-and_11.html Not to mention her hair was down in the photos at the beginning of the hike and now they appear to be in at least two pony tails where devil horns would be. The finding of the backpack 14 miles away is too incredulous to be believed. Photo 509 was removed first. Thanks, John. Tourists Killed in Mexico Is it Safe to Go Now? - Yahoo! So, these were all indigenous locals influenced by another villager that had traveled abroad. Even rainwater gets heavy enough to destroy electronics inside of a backpack yet that didnt happen. (From our perspective to the right of her directly in front of her feet about waist high). And the hair photo shows him holding Kris by the neck (you can see his fingers, one wearing a silver ring with faces engraved on it). Could the red object be a bird? It looks as though she has a mouse under her right eye. Also I see a black pipe if you look carefully near one of the red and black objects the one that was circled. It looks like there may be some red on her face too or other markings. This lady, Pitti, she is under much suspicion as she practically botched the investigation efforts with her repeated lack of discipline in collecting and documenting and directing the case. Do they deal in weapons, drugs, porn? Ive found that there are in fact two native type people visible in the night photos. The girls were no longer alive after April 2nd latest. IF there was a dog with them why then did they not photograph it? Bizarre Stories About Tourists Who Went Missing Far From Home - CBC Maybe shes told to put her hands up and walk into this structure. How come there are so many disappearances in S. America I think that this is a photoshopped image made by cutting out a picture of Kris and pasting it onto a background to give the false impression that Kris and Lisanne went on the Pianista Trail. This trip to Panama was a major life experience for Kris and Lisanne. Hi Nick, yes I would agree that the red object above is just decaying plant material. Very interesting and completely changed my mind. If there are documented river paths, this could be a way to find that exact same location. Not saying that its impossible, but very VERY difficult to edit photos seamlessly. Yo veo en el fondo de la foto 506, adjunto al muslo, la pierna y el pie izquierdo de Kris, una silueta de un hombre joven, con sombrero de copa alta y ala ancha (al estilo de los sheriff norteamericanos), con una manta blanca sobre sus hombros,tronco y brazos y un rifle o escopeta en posicin horizontal sobre sus manos. Notice how Juan has actively injected false information into the public investigation, including a picture of 4 people standing in a pond with heavily photo edited faces (one of them has their head moved off of the neck in a very obvious edit). This was cleverly planned, and the murderer(s) have done this before. I too believe this is most likely what happened. The Missing Panama Girls: A Closer Look At One Photo I would think they had to be pretty far into the jungle to have come across that slat roof structure. Her right hand is clearly raised in front of her shading her face from the sunlight. Why would they remove them? Ive travelled through Central and South America quite a bit and these experiences cant be found elsewhere. The guide had something to do with the girls disappearance. Many hikers from all over the world disappear, fall,or suffer other fatalaccidents while traveling-this could've happened to these women as well. Dimedes Abrego - 12 years in prison. Maybe they stumbled on a hidden stash of drugs or something wierd and were taking a photo of the location in order to report it to the police, but got caught before they could. Panama: Seven young people killed on trip to Gatn Lake People claiming the floor is made out of skulls, that there is a booby trap above her head, that there are 5 men with rifles watching her, that there are snakes hanging down, that she is at some sort of human sacrificial alter etc. Even if that had happened, the skeleton would have been more intact and scratch marks would have been found on the bones. Disturbing evidence also showed there were a number of failed attempts to unlock Kris' phone - sparking another theory that Kris had died and Lisanne was frantically trying to access her phone to get help. There is one thing I have wondered about, when did the dog leave them? Regarding the photos, I have no idea why they would be taking these, deleted some later and left this one, especially since the ribbed roofing structure is somewhat obvious. Article about our trip plans: Research Team Update Support Us, Campaign Link: Mapping The Jungle Trails Of Panama. Maybe the girls were not so clever at tech but they did not leave voice or video memos to document their predicament not goodbye messages for family. And remember that the legitimate photos we have came from Juan. The ground is littered with leaves, twigs, and stones. Theres some type of red and black object at the top of the photo. By April 6, 2014, theparents of both women grew frantic andflew to Panama with detectives from the Netherlands. Are they low-level or sophisticated or a combo or both? I think the night photos were taken by individuals who found the device and were not familiar with the camera, perhaps never seeing a camera before. Cave photo: He has a weapon like o jr t in his hands. I wonder why the girls didnt do any text messages even if they never got through? Like you, I also live abroad in a developing country. However, a lot of the photos seem to have been tampered with and one of them was even deleted from their camera, which could only have been done using a computer. She is NOT looking at the ground, but at the camera, with her face up. As soon as I zoomed in, my heart sank for her. Ive just watched a video on YouTube.. An unusual one.. A psychic reading actually.. Btw, phones will connect to emergency services with or without sim card being present. Nothing. People began to suspect something happened whenthe dog Blue returned from the hike unaccompanied. because why else would they have continued access to their phones for the next week? There may be some evidence on its fur like fingerprintsdnaplant/vegetation etc. They took a swim before the trip with to local young man the same day they went in the forest. Friends Kris Kremers (born August 9th, 1992) and Lisanne Froon (born September 24th, 1991) were two Dutch tourists who went missing under mysterious circumstances in early April of 2014 while on vacation in Panama, allegedly disappearing during a hike on the Pianista trail near Boquete.. Im always looking for answers. So they made it out of there, The picture with her standing at cave entrance is also the same place she was standing in dark way off in background. Like local tribesmen. That is why the poor often resort to vigilantism. I think Juantarctica made a compelling case on YouTube for this theory. However, regarding Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon, Id need to know more about their personality to make this determination. It looks a bit wierd, but that is just because everybody is assuming they see her upper arm when in reality is is her lower arm. It looks like an indigenous person with shiny black hair walking away from Kris. In fact, Im almost certain of it. To Jane I just gave the brief overall story of what I think happened. The link to the main page where I give complete details of the story: The True Story of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon 2 Girls That Disappeared in Panama. Police searches have found nothing and now his mother is flying out to try to find him. On March 14, 2014, students LisanneFroon and Kris Kremers traveled from the Netherlands to Panama, where they intended toassistlocal communities, volunteerwith children, learnSpanish, and relax a bit. Or if they went, they could have been followed by someone the murderer (or murderers). , I could be wrong but scanning through the comments didnt see some of these things being discussed, & thought Id put my 2 sense in! I posted a link at Koude Kas of example of Monkeys playing with phones because they were entranced by the flash.
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