They need you! Your email address will not be published. These hatches include midges, many species of mayflies and varieties of caddis. Considering WE all went through it. My parents then sent me to a southern baptist program in Kentucky for my junior year. He talked to this girl that was beautiful during some of the session where he was trying to face his sex addiction . Mike, Im pretty sure I was there with you. I was in there from 2002-2004, also in Serenity. This area is renowned for its stunning vistas, including the towering Tobacco Root, Ruby, Highlands and Pioneer mountain ranges. I was forced to help build where most of you lived. I was there jan2005 to 0ct2006 I was was Serenity. This wasnt a law? Thanks, I was in wisdom with cliff. Gabe, wow man. Jay Im glad that place worked out for you. I had plain oatmeal coming out of my fuckin ears by the time I left. That still haunts me that maybe if I was there I could have prevented it. I made friends that I still miss. That was the highlight of my day.meanwhile all of this is heel to toe no talking ECT ECT. Ive seen kids get beat mistreated etc. Or came from hell. The honor among those being exploited. To those who had more trouble re-adjusting back to life, I fully understand. Now I have 2 kids a sexy ass wife and am a welder in tbe steelworkers union in pittsburgh pa. Cameron.how much money do you make? Most of the townspeople didnt like it, other than they, SCA, dumped a ton of money in town. I was in the lovely SCL Eternity family 98/99horrifying! Erics story, 1997 I always felt cheated out of that time of life I missed, that life they often preached was over because we had ruined it (self affirming prophecies and pseudo self help jargon) but I am blessed for the perspective it gives on how short life is. You will be redirected once the validation is complete. What an awesome lady. The nearest commercial airport is in the town of Butte, which is within a 1-hour drive from the ranch. He is almost 32 years old and is just now starting to talk about what happened at Spring Creek, which is why I am just now doing research on what others experiences were at this facility. If my brother ever reads this I hope he gets as far away from the abuse that is the family. jgraham2862@gmail.com, Thank you Jessica. She is lucky to have a mother who accepts what happened there. I was at SCLA from 03-04 and I never once saw a kid get injured who didnt run/fight staff me ever to get restrained. I personaly never got beaten but fot caught up in all the games played there. They made me burn all of my cothes so I had nothing. I think he walked out. a sense of belonging somewhere, a warm home. I met some awesome people that made it a tiny bit easier.. Many allegations of abuse, as well as Social Services complaints and lawsuits have been leveled at Cameron Pullan and his brother Chaffin Pullan. I hope to find a way to create something I can look forward to but for now I am trying to just get by. Assault And battery false imprisonment and torture .apparently are not illegal! With over 3 miles of productive spring creeks, two fishing ponds and many other wetland sloughs onsite, the outdoor opportunities are endless. I was there may 2001 to april 2002. Climate risk data is provided for informational purposes only. HahaI forgot about that phrase attention suck thats right. I was sent away in 2003-2005. We ended up in court and i was trying to find a better place for my daughter than our local system. I just found this website and thankful for it. Yes, Gabe, I remember having to wear only flimsy brown slippers and boxer shorts and walking that way outside while it was snowing. I live in Seattle, WA Im wondering if anyone might possibly, serendipitously know of a good psychologist in the Seattle area, I would be eternally grateful Thank God!! The fresh air, mountain views and peaceful setting will make you wish you never had to leave. I struggle to open up all of the memories but they have started flooding back over the last few years! It is now 2013 and I have been incarcerated in federal prison since early 2007, ironically for felony possession of a fire arm. I do remember a lot of negative things about that place, starting with abuse at Brightway in Utah. Her name was Emily Gleason. Colton Stoneman. Cameron Pullan Did my time in tbe marines and served my country in afgan and irq. I am not even quite sure where to begin when it comes to Spring Creek. Lol I remember doing the kettle corn lol smh. co. did a masterful job in turning you into the insensitive , company line towing cretin that you present yourself to be. Staring into space is categorized as either looking-at-boys or planning to escape. I remember John too. I met someone at physical therapy one day and I over heard him say I hate myself I asked him why he said it and he said he was sent to a horrible program where they tell you and make you believe that you hate yourself. I was forced to sleep in a tent with members of the opposite sex. I am proud of that and still remember my times there. It is weird that the story of the fire extinguisher is right there in front of me because it was Eugene and me who did that. Thank you. I remember my stay thers like it was yestetday. She is on the tracks and we are about to release 4-5 trains at full speed , she could have been in the middle of that bridge and never had a way off if a train came over. Its all part of the experience and sadly, a lot of teens didnt have the chance to experience any of it. Remember going in there the first time and going Where the fucks the worksheet at?!!! In between the two I spent about a month a house on a lake with a loaded kitchen snakcks everywhere freedom. And just love them and support them as much as you can through it all.guide them try to understand what there going through. Ill never forget Zach. I knew Joah at Sprimg Creek. So Diana, when were you there? Now I find this survivor website!!!!! Spring Creek Lodge Spring Creek Lodge Academy, located in Thompson Falls, Montana, was first opened as a WWASP school in 1996 by Cameron Pullan and Dan Peart, along with Chaffin Pullan, Cameron's brother. Anyway, I just wanted to drop a note to tell each of you that my heart goes out to you, and I will be praying for you. Get the latest updates and new property listings from Fay Ranches From Another SOLD Parent This is akin to the argument that it is okay to hit (or rape) a woman if she is asking for it. I dont remember if we were denied pads/tampons or if we were only rationed a certain number? They were all Mormons and tried to push that religion on us. 7 weeks later after Mike I got sent to fn Cascade school! A white car speeds around me pulls to the side of the road and another women jumps out. So you couldnt process the traumatic loss you just experienced as a child being drug out of your bed in the middle of the night. Buy the way I live in Florida. She is heading toward Highway 200. juch0784@cc.peralta.edu, ps. The Pullans were alsoinvolvedin Camas Ranch, an apparent attempt to remake a portion of the facility into an 18+ program, which failed. I cant remember the name of the 2-story cabin that had the laundry room at the bottomIm spacin on that. The C Lazy G Ranch, also known in the sporting world as the McCoy Spring Creek Ranch, is located near Dillon in Montanas fabled Beaverhead Valley. One lobe and blessings to everyone. I lived in the 18 trailer for a good bit of the entire program and also spent a few months living in the upper level cabins just off campus. The land also includes superior water rights. All these rivers are the perfect alternative to the private spring creek fishing on the McCoy Spring Creek Ranch. Other than that I would just go through the motions and try not to cause any trouble so I wouldnt ruin anything for my family but I wasnt going to conform to there weird process at the same time. Ive been in therapy and diagnosed with PTSD because of this horrible, awful place. He was always fair and in one particular incident backed me up for calling out a jr. Staff member for beating on a thirteen year old who had been sent there for being too fat. Quick synopsis: Last Monday we got to work and on our work radio we were told to be on the lookout for a missing girl. WWASP was a sick business and ill have to live with my scars the rest of my life. I packed a few books for the road and got into a car with two ex-cops. but i think i might remember some of you that commented.. Hey my name is Katie I was in charity in 2004 and 2005 i started a small uprising with some other girls from worksheets. All this while having this crackpot therapy shoved down our throats whether we liked it or not. He was amazing on a mountain bike! If anyone can help guide me it would be greatly appreciated. Still have actual nightmares being there! The C Lazy G Ranch, also known in the sporting world as the McCoy Spring Creek Ranch, is located near Dillon in Montana's fabled Beaverhead Valley. He is worse off now than he EVER was going in. I cant remember what family I was in. I remember before we officially left this pedo ass fuck named Mike Terry took a group of us (level 3s-4s & 5s) on a walk through the desert and we voted each other up. Kids got raped, beaten, thrown in the hobbit constantly with a large male staff always handy to kick their ass and ensure that they stayed on silence. I got there and saw kids that I thought went home months before or that was said that were being transferred when in fact was kept at this house. The only question I got an answer too was what happens to Brandy now? Hid them in the dryer tube ,every Sunday when we had to clean I would grab a pack , smoked them out the bathroom window at night. Im sorry but I cant place you. I enjoyed reading through all of these comments because it has been a long time since I have connected with the memories of this place. Feeling like killing all the staff and myself. I know there was a lot of sadness and angst associated with this place, but for me its mostly comedy. ? Unbelievable! http://www.utahriverview.com/ Another side note- my reason for being there was because I did not like my step dad and argued with my parents constantly. EUREKA, KANSAS The Spring Creek Ranch is home to a proud family of cattle ranchers that have worked the land for more than a century. They are trying to lease the old Diamond Ranch property, but it seems that they are broke. Friends of mine like little Doug, John H., Eugene, and countless others endured unspeakable abuse at the hands of Lichfield led psychopathic, Mormon, disciplinarian sadists like Chaffin Pullan, his brother Cameron, Duane Smotherman, not to mention the lower level rapist night watchmen and junior staff. Wow . Hope hes doing well. Anyone remember Corwin Preston? Its a great place with great people that are here to help As I said that I looked right in the eyes of the older lady. I was kidnapped by spring creek lodges goons out of a state where I was legally an adult. Made my bed 3-4 times a day. Parents if you are reading these claims please listen. Dan Peart is Robert Browning Litchfields brother-in-law. I did not quit because then I couldnt help anyone if I wasnt there. Beaverhead Ranch is home to 7,000 cow-calf pairs and 15 families who are employed on the ranch. The bell in the morning, the five minute shower, the ugly uniforms- khaki and maroon. It was insane, and when I left as a confused very immature 16 year old boy, I felt guilty for not figuring out a way to rescue my brothers whos parents had not been quick in catching up to the scam. Ill just say this. During this time we were kept so far from civilization that the only hope for survival was to stay with the group. The feelings of hopelessness, mental rape, and imprisonment for whatever offense perpetrated at home, and dealt with by uniform aggression and abuse always remain. I was in Serenity from 1999-2002. Its the Weirdest Thing I have Ever Seen. Arrived in SCL in 1998 and took my exit plan at 18 in 2000. Susan I was in springcreek from 1999to 2000. I have been helping him put together his story if anyone remembers Brian McLaren from 96 and 97 and would be willing to share what they remember please help me help him. It was crazy. Bullrun Spring Creek Ranch in Belgrade, Montanahttps://hallhall.com/property-for-sale/montana/bullrun-spring-creek-ranch/a091Y000023ocoP/Bullrun Spring Creek. They fuckng made me live in the tpee in the winter for like 2 weeks. Singing Gregorian chants in the hobbit hole. The worst part is these programs go on operating, get shut down and reopen in new locations with different names and the world just lives on, completely oblivious that hell holes such as these really exist. I wish there was a magic pill for that year of hell to go. Me and Mark? We are located near Livingston, Montana just 40 miles north of Yellowstone National Park Armstrong Spring Creek on the O'Hair Ranch - Spring Creek Fly Fishing in Montana Its cold and going to be colder tonight. Im just a MOM and a believer, one who loves her children more than life itself and who is even more inspired after hearing your stories to do everything in her power to show her teen daughter love, grace, empathy, forgiveness, and direction, so she can go out into the world with hope, happiness, and unlimited opportunity. Since I wasnt compliant they would consequence me for minimal things just to watch me lose it and get restrained. If you would participate in our goal of shutting these places down for good, you will be helping your daughter and thousands more like her. Scared clutching the back railing. This place was a bloody joke, love is how you show guidence and parenting. I was admitted in to University because of her hard, fast work. I spent two winters in that hell hole. Was anyone there at the time ? This is odd. You know it doesnt make you Look Smart, right? I was being starved, robbed and abused at home from a mother suffering from narcissism and munchausers syndrome. My last meal was an egg mcmuffin. The person I spoke with sold me the school. I was on lockdown; I had no rights and could not leave. Linderman was not in the same league of evil. You guys were nuts haha, so was I. If you have questions or feedback about this data, get help at riskfactor.com and climatecheck.com. Stay in comfort while fishing the best. I lived life through my headphones and skateboard. I saw the special treatment given to girls that had been there too long in order to speed up their graduation. My brother and I were there in 1998 to 1999. Bye. Get Out of Your Shit. Remember Eric Sweptston? Livingston, MT 59047. It was a place that MADE you earn your privileges. These fools knocked on his door and the guy was like what the fuck do u want in a deep voice and they just apologized said they were looking for one of the students because he is missing and plane is about to take off. God damn fuck that place so fucking much. Anybody remember that kid Torrey? Mad respect always Money trap, most definetely. If he worked at Spring Creek Lodge, he had to be aware of the abuse that was occurring. He helped me get out of there. I will ask him. Now its Tuesday night. What about you? Moron. I however, did not feel good. I was in Courage family with him when I first went to SCL. One activity was the lifeboat and you had to go tell all your fellow prisoners if they lived or died. When were youuuuu there? My name is Devin, and I was in Integrity family in 2000. I remember level 3+ (All Star), 4, 5 and 6 activities.pop, candy, moviesand girls that us guys couldnt talk to. and SHARING, WTF is SHARING?? please email me at ms.stephanielhudson@yahoo.com I will tell you everything i rememeber. I was in the Genesis family. They no longer did tbe gravel pit or trail of lights.and tbey toned down the seminars. So many names seem familiar now but long forgotten since 1997. My life didnt really ever go anywhere to be honest. I was there too. We got a ways up the mountain but we both gassed out and they caught up to us. I hope someone..anyone remembers me. Luckily, I had my HS diploma from them, but even with out that she can help you. We had to have been at SCC together at the same time, I mean, everything you said in your post was perfect. Some parents came during a tour and looked at us in special needs, it happened a couple times while I was in there. Cry me a fuking river you unaccountable over sensative pussies! I was also the youngest on the facility, for I was a fresh 13 year old. My name is a Nick Theriault. Thank you. What a horrible person. He even gave me his T-shirt when I left at the end of 96it was a Petaluma shirt. I hope that you have found someone that you love and loves you for you. I saw level sevens crushed because they lost all their points for a trivial reason. Thank you so much. My name is Trent, I was in Excel with Henry, Brad, Matt, Bill, Jesse, Scott, Jason and a whole bunch of other little fuckers that were honestly mostly pretty funny kids. I also realized that my daughter was reacting to the way our lives were. Teens are supposed to party late, have sex, try thing whether theyre good or bad. It was cool cuz I went n stole the staffs ciggs n got to do whatever I wanted. Just then, I look up and see a young girl, hispanic, walking the tracks passed our crews and out onto the long tall bridge. Its a mind fuck. But as far as the staff go I had nothing but great staff member Chaffin and Cameron did walk around like kings but they were harmless. This place was hell. This place did nothing in the form of help and guidence for teens. I was put out there with kids coming off drugs and had been in gangs. There are also 2 guest cabins onsite, each with 2 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. I would love to see much of the staff I remember, Mike Needham, Mike Tarry, Dan (the former Marine), Miss Lee, Mr. Donaldson, Miss Amy and again many others whose names not remembered but faces well known.I was there for the Bigfoot (Red) vs Bear (Blue) months. Sick shit man. My name is Lindsay and I am from Paso Robles, California. I finally talked to him when I was old enough to understand that he would never and could never understand. Honestly Ive never really been the same anxiety and paranoia surround my life, which all the Xanax in the world wont take away Ive tried. I just wanted to survive and not stand out. On a side note, in that place the duality of man became very apparent. I spent twenty seven and a half months there. I hate it here, its like a Jail Im scared, I want my mother The counselor lady quickly looks at me and loudly exclaims its not a jail, its a boarding school. Clearview Girls Academy, Heron Montana. Wow ok, I felt that was a little strong and forcefully unneeded information. But scl was filled with the same shit. Maybe the program was fine for you or maybe you were just brainwashed into thinking that the things they did were appropriate and all to just teach you to respect. Montana has to pass a law that says, hey, you cant have sex with patients!! For some reason I have the discovery seminar in a binder I have yet to destroy. Other than the wolf dog and the couple of friends I made, that place was a nightmare. The surrounding porches provide ideal places to enjoy long summer evenings. These parents who allow their children to stay in these abusive, disreputable programs should be ashamed in my opinion as these facilities are child abuse by proxy. Stocked Trout pond right out the door with large trout ready to take your f1y! His mom works 2 jobs, goes to college full time and cares for her two boys D and J. I definitely dont want to recommend a boys camp if this is the type of treatment he will get! Walter how did you find all this info out i didnt even know this and i went there haha. Poor Miss Keely, I will never forget her. So this isnt my real name. $10,975,000. So if you went there, and are now an Adult, and you are still im the Same Fucked Place that you were that got you there in the First Place, then Please Go Get Help. Hit me up shelbymorgan47@yahoo.com, I was also in spring creek lodge back in 97 for 6 weeks. Not perfect, but harmless. I thought you were an adult once you turned 18 the last time I checked. This happens more often than you would believe and I have been out for over eight years. I was there in 2004 in eternity family. What was Karleys last name? Im from FL I was there between 03 and 04. But if a program does it, using staff that usually had high school diplomas at max and who were paid around minimum wage and poorly trained if at all, while charging tens of thousands of dollars a year, somehow it becomes okay? This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google. Hugged, laughed and cried. And boy that is not a fun experience. One other thing I want to mention is that in one of the seminars at SkyView Christian Academy there was a girl i think she was 14. Hey Tyler remember me it Henry or I went by Anthony. Innocent. The rules that we had to follow so as not to lose a point if a student broke one. I was transferred to Charity in 2005 from Innocence for a short time! I didnt do drugs or break any laws, cut myself, or even have sex. Anyway, hope you guys are all doing good, I think of you all from time to time. It was literally a correctional facility to house unwanted kids. From Wisconsin? I was going to Spring Creek in Montana and it was really hard having everything taken away from you and then you grow close to your people who are surviving this shit with you and then you find out that everyone is being split up. Cascade school for a year and a half til I told em to just take me to juvy cause I was done with the BS. Everything was designed to turn you into a shell of a human so you would be grateful when they let you have butter in your oatmeal, or ketchup on your burger. James from Utah. It was fucking crazy but I actually preferred it over being locked in Sky View Academy. That place SUCKED and i would never put my children in something like this. Lawsuits Mount Against Spring Creek Lodge, http://wwaspsurvivors.com/youth-foundation-success-academy-youth-foundation-inc/, http://www.flickr.com/photos/100005874@N05/, http://www.facebook.com/groups/wwaspsurvivors, http://chaffinpullanismarvelous.weebly.com/, Youth Foundation Closes Amid Scandals, Lawsuits | WWASP Survivors. Reflections is terrible and I hate Mickey Manning. If they wouldnt take me I would do something stupid to go. Message me jamie_wilson_@msn.com. The only staff member that I think most of us respected was Papa Mike, because he was a descent guy. had a crazy brother matt that ran honor for a while. thus the difficulty. Can you imagine what a disaster that wouldve been. It would be priceless to talk to those whom understand. They wanted my stepdad to shave his legs and dress as a female. I witnessed many myself. I have struggled very much with depression, trauma, and I just recently started therapy for a lot of things and so much of it that I have tried to forget about is coming back little by little and Im 31. My name is ERic Rios, i was there from 2001 2002 I was in respect family, I recall the day I went in October 3, 2001 and the day I left April 21, 2002, Anyone remember Tinkerbell the big black guy with cold teet????? Because when I got home from spring Creek I lost a huge part of my identity I didnt have that free spirit that I had I didnt really fit in with my lifelong friends in the same way. If you talked in line it was a T.O.S. So I was laying in the back of the pick up with a blanket covering me thinking I got a ride out of there. The place was crazy for sure and did my share of time in worksheets and whatever the hell that place was where you had to lay on the concrete all day.. but honestly I didnt think it was life scarring. Its crazyIm 34 nowand still, I remember these things. Im sorry, but anyone who leaves their kid in the care of a man named Narvin needs a brain transplant. Hey, I remember Danny, Gabe, Eugene, and several othersI was part of the first group (the Genesis family) in January 1996. Mike Linderman deserves to be in jail. I dont understand it. 1221 Spring Forest Drive, Rocky Mount, NC 27804. PEACE! 3,190 +/- Deeded Acres. The Pullansserved as owners and administrators of the SCL facility until 2009, when the school was closed. During this march through the desert we are given a ziplock bag with 3 smaller bags in it of rice , beans, and flour. Uhh holy crap I didnt hear about Joshs current troubles til now. Jackson Hole Wyoming :: 1 (800) 443.6139 Lodging Spa Activities Dining Meetings & Groups Weddings Wildlife Safaris Media Book Now Packages & Specials Jackson Hole Wyoming:: 1 (800) 443.6139 Lodging I went inside one of the bathrooms and locked the stall and stood on top of toilet seat top so u couldnt see my feet. Honestly I didnt know what to do with my child. The best spring creek fishing in Montana Guest Cabin on the Creek Make your Montana experience unforgettable: Be our guest in this quaint, rustic cabin sitting on the banks of upper Armstrong's Spring Creek. Spent a lot of my time in intervention. So as unaccountable as it is, was not all my fault. Please email me at clark.capehart.charles@gmail.com. it takes time. Eternity 1998!! So good to finally find some people who can relate to my experience. This allowed for a one meager meal a day as we marched over a rugged landscape that , though beautiful, was totally harsh. Do you remember me? I put my name as 5mo for now because that was my nickname. What fucking psycho plays tony Robbins at every fucking meal. looking back the place cracks me up. The trouble teens in the cabin did not care about her, they were too wrapped up on trying to SURVIVE the program. We were isolated from any houses or people way up there, and didnt have any food to bring with us anyway. I get out calmly and walk to the back of the truck. Its The Sleepers (or just Sleepers) with kevin bacon. Copyright 2021 Spring Creek Campground - All Rights Reserved. Now living outside OKC, very rural. I remember a lot of stuff remember Tyler parish. WWASP Survivors is run by a dedicated group of concerned alumni of WWASP-affiliated programs. It was basically my job to monitor and discipline the students. For more information, log on to our web site at www.nelsonsspringcreek.com or give us a call at 406-222-6560. I was like most taken in the middle of the night from my bed in western washington over to Montana. The more eyes on this the more this facility will have a spotlight on them. God this place sucked I was in unity family. They made us build fort style fences around the staff cabins and lay rock gravel pits. Support Staff beating the shit out of teenagers and jr staff getting thier jollys off fucking with lower levels. I was a month from turning 18 and got put in the 18Year program pretty quickly, I think the staff (and my parents) realized they needed a way to keep me there while I was 18 and after. . Then again I definitely wasnt trying to find anything like this when I got out, and Facebook has done wonders for finding people and talking about all the crazy shit our parents and others will ever get. Hey you all, this is all amazing to read, I went to a program in TF (not SCL) for 1.5 years. Im doing good. I have never been the type to go with the flow or fake it till I make it. When not even the names of the people I lived with for 2.5 years ring a bell, then I am scared for what I still cannot remember. ONLY ENTER RIG LENGTH All sites will accommodate tow/towed vehicles. I have heard too many rumors of people killing themselves after leaving. Which was nothing because you did the same shit everyday. I have been forced to stay at Spring Creek Lodge for three years. He was indeed traumatized by wwasps. For the things that were done to me and then sent me to Jamaica for defending myself. There is no wrong or right only what works This phrase still haunts me to this day. I wonder what qualifies you to say a place to bodyslammed or fucked with children wasnt abusive? Shows how much she cared lol. I will be looking into this further and hope the best for Brandy. I remember her pulling over at what I thought was a Motel 6 to ask for directions. No worksheet, just a wooden cubicle to waste away in while a junior staff crunches on Cheetos and tells you to not turn around in your seat. We have multiple tent sites that can be reserved online. Heel to toe! I wished I would have run sooner. Was one of the only black kids there. Flip Flops and made it over 10 miles. Can you give me more info?? Truthfully, I manipulated my way home, and Im proud of myself for doing it. Went to Golden Coral, gun shop lol. Mia was in Morava and I believe your son, Zach, is mentioned. No phone call for 4 months. i was only there for 3 months because I was kicked out. At first I think its a family dispute but thought it was odd (two white women chasing a young hispanic girl) As I passed by them with my truck I pay attention to every detail I can. The staff only fuck with you if you give them a reason to I had support staff called on me 500+ times and never once had to get put on the ground, like I said earlier I would walk away on my own lol and would just verbally talk shit never showed aggression where the staff felt I would attack.