Well it turns out that many Adventists also thought of a 120 year tie in with that date and came to the conclusion that the end would come in 1964. 7-8. They believe that Jesus Christ has been ruling in heaven as king since 1914, a date they believe was prophesied in Scripture, and that after that time a period of cleansing occurred, resulting in God's selection of the Bible Students associated with Charles Taze Russell to be his people in 1919. First, he will destroy Babylon the Great, the world empire of false religion. Copyright 2001-2015 Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information. Let us take a closer look at those two major events. The misnamed Jehovahs Witnesses have a long, undistinguished history of setting dates. It's the absolute best way to scam people I have yet seen. (Rev. (The Finished Mystery, 1917, p. 404), 1920 'we may expect 1925 to witness the return of these faithful men of from the condition of death, being resurrected' (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920, p. 88), 1920 'Therefore we may confidently expect that 1925 will mark the return of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and the faithful prophets of old' (Millions Now Living Will Never Die, 1920, p. 89-90), 1922 "The indisputable facts, therefore, show that the "time of the end" began in 1799; that the Lord's second presence began in 1874." 25:31-40. Even the Watchtowers Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures acknowledges the force of the original text by this rendition of the term apotrepou, and these be turning yourself away from.. We obey the good news when we apply it in our lives. Seriously based on the 'overlap' generations definition Armageddon has been pushed back to 2154! 10 But who is at the head of this rapidly expanding congregation, you ask? The Adventist movement emerged in the 1830s around the . She suggested it would come in 1999. For example, by the waters of Megiddo, God helped Israelite Judge Barak defeat a Canaanite army led by a chief named Sisera. 71 PICTURE DESCRIPTION: Dramatic events occur around us. 6. As the Bible states, These persons are SELECTED by Jehovah. Nothing is said about God bringing a genocide. This works for the current GB as some of them will be alive in 2034 but all will be dead by 2154! Each year they gather into the organization tens of thousands of new ministers, clearly a product of Jehovah's spirit operating through his invisible King-Son and his angelic representatives, then through his faithful slave class on earth today.- . The fact of the matter is, however, the Watchtower folks concede that Christs application was to the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in A.D. 70. (2Chron. Jehovah's Witness 'ordered to renounce faith and join Russian army' Europe. It behooves all who love righteousness to put forth every effort to advertise THE THEOCRACY while the privileges are still open" ( The Informant, May . Page 15, Paragraph 6 "In Noah's day, Jehovah declared: 'My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. 6. The Bible says the UN will . This works for the current GB as some of them will be . The only consistent thing about that record has been its absolute failure. Har-Magedon, or Armageddon, means the "mountain of the assembly of troops", and it refers in a symbolic way to the capital organization of Zion where Jehovah God has enthroned Christ Jesus as earth's rightful ruler. This means that 0.236% of Jehovah's Witnesses have died of Covid-19, over 4 times higher than the global rate in August 2021 of 0.051%. My concern is that placing the emphasis of the discussion on the days of Noah might give some the false impression that the Bibles reference to the days of Noah would be similar, if not identical, to the History of Noah (Genesis 6:9) Because, immediately prior to the reference to the History of Noah we have the statement in Genesis 6:3: After that Jehovah said: My spirit shall not act toward man indefinitely in that he is also flesh. And you can tell when Armageddon is near when you see the things . Because of our eagerness, we have hoped for the new system earlier than Jehovah's timetable has called for it. 15. Why did God connect his final great war with Megiddo? All rights reserved. 18:7,8. THE WATCHTOWERSTUDY EDITION September2019, The WatchtowerStudy Edition| September2019. when would they say their 144,000 would come from. It's amazing that other Christians will mock us for this scriptural belief but at the same time tell . (b)Based on Revelation 16:14, 16, why can we say that Armageddon is not a literal place? Like Pharaoh at the Red Sea, Gog will learn that he is fighting against Jehovah.Ex. It will serve as a signal announcing the great tribulation. 6 How will God defeat his enemies at Armageddon? If an organization is to be fully theocratic, it must be directed and controlled altogether by God and by the forces he operates. I think it will take another decade (of the older generation of JW's dying off in waves) before the "1914 generation" shit hits the proverbial fan. The wording in the following quotations from the WT is carefully presented so as to obfuscate the real meaning. At Armageddon, Gods people will not fight. Megiddo and the nearby Jezreel Valley were the sites of many battles. The torrent of Kishon washed them away.Judg. Yes, the survivors will be absolutely right when they proclaim, "Jehovah God, the Almighty, true and righteous are your judicial decisions."Rev. Does no one think my post interesting enough to reply? But, as we know, things all went pear shaped in 1995. All this activity is not an accident. To receive everlasting life in the earthly we must identify that organization and serve God as part of it. *** Watchtower 1972 August 1 p.458 Loving Oversight of the Congregation of God ***, THEOCRATIC APPOINTMENT IN THE CONGREGATION. 16:16. Copyright 2001-2015 Jehovah's Witness Discussion Forum | JW.Org Community Information. They say the term "God," is merely a title, and that the real name for God is "Jehovah.". ^ par. With presumptuousness the prophet spoke it . Back in the 1960s there was, seemingly, a brief period of relaxation in authoritarianism among Jehovah's Witnesses. Religion is the most profitable legal business because religions can misquote, misrepresent, and use unethical practices without fear of punishment. 14 Gog will trust in his arm of fleshhis military might. "it was clearly suggested"? Would you like to read this article in %%? I would seem that things are being revealed at the proper time to encourage the preaching work. Voil prs de 90 ans, depuis 1914 , que nous vivons les derniers jours de ce systme de choses.". (Jas. While I'm not sure they'll make the same mistake they made before, but I would be willing to put some money on it. friends. How come they can't just say "we've done more research, we think we were mistaken. ; p. 99), 1917 "And the mountains were not found. *** Reference Bible Deuteronomy 18:20-22 ***, 20 "'However, the prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. That great historical event took place in the year 1914, conclusive proof concerning this having already appeared in the . *** w84 12/1 p. 18 Keep Ready! This way they can simply say that we "read to much" into the explanation given. Did not Moses make a 40-year miscalculation in trying to act ahead of time to remove Israel's affliction? Goshawk of the 'Need another whiskey' class. (Ezek. 11. slimboyfat. Included therein were Noah's building of the ark and his preaching work, right up until the time that the Flood finally arrived. 1:7-9) We know God when we know his likes, dislikes, and standards. (Luke 21:32) And Jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment 1989 "The apostle Paul was spearheading the Christian missionary activity. 9 Jehovah will not wipe out Satans entire world all at once, as he did in Noahs day. *** Watchtower 1983 February 15 p.12 You Can Live Forever in on Earth-But How? Their strength will be in keeping calm and showing trust in Jehovah and his heavenly armies.Isa. friends, Ijust ran across this. He plainly declared: this generation shall not pass away, till all these things be accomplished (v. 34). HAVE you heard people apply the word Armageddon to a nuclear war or an environmental disaster? Nevertheless, the proclamation will be just another demon-inspired lie. Sure, 2035 will roll around and the world will still be kicking along and there will be fall out from another false prophesy but if you could increase the numbers from 7 million to 14 million, who cares if you lose even 25%. It's obvious to me that leadership needs to fire up the members in some way. Notice that Jesus did not liken his presence to the relatively short period of time during which the Flood occurred in Noah's day. ***, Jehovah's Witnesses , in their eagerness for Jesus' second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. 3:25,26. 5. (2Chron. A few weeks later, the Jehovah's Witnesses closed on a $200 million sale of that building to the private equity firm Kayne Anderson Real Estate Advisors, which plans to turn the property into . What are some of the main events that will lead up to Armageddon? http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Oracle/9941/succeed_fail1.html. The cover of that particular issue dramatically asked: "Are we . Let's take a real close look at the name "Jehovah . What does it mean to obey the good news about our Lord Jesus? The evidence is clear that Jehovah has used and is continuing to use his one organization, with "the faithful and discreet slave" taking the lead. 19:11-15. Publication download options *** Watchtower 1981 February 15 p.19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? Barak and the prophetess Deborah thanked Jehovah for their miraculous victory. How may Jehovah defeat his enemies at Armageddon? 5 Jehovahs people have long awaited Armageddon. But, I am fearfully confident that many others will do so and this will be a question many will ask. It doesn't have to be either/or. Final Prophecy Cycle Timeline Images; . Period. by slimboyfat PRIVACY POLICY We can take the prophetic time, and time-and-a-half, apply it to the preaching work done by Noah to come up with a parallel even realized by the inspection. Rather, it appears that they are both describing the condition, attitude, and behavior of the people prior to an event, with the event being the subject of the sentences. Then I read an interesting thing about the Adventists. appreciate this fact and respond to the directions of the 'slave' as we would to the voice of God, because it is His provision.