Cookie broke free and took the boy underwater. Bill Haast (December 30, 1910 June 15, 2011[1]) was the owner and operator, from 1947 until 1984, of the Miami Serpentarium, a tourist attraction south of Miami, Florida, where he extracted venom from snakes in front of paying customers. I wish you could have seen that crowd move as that snake reared itself and advanced toward Bill as it poured itself onto the concrete floor. Julio Otero Fernndez was wading knee-deep in the Matina River in Limn, eastern Costa Rica, when the reptile lunged at him, pulled him under and killed him. In his trademark white lab coat, he would approach a venomous reptile, lure it with one hand and grab its head with the other. Haast eventually sold his family home to buy the land on South Dixie Highway where the Serpentarium would rise. My mother took my brother and I to the serpentarium in 1977. AJ Jain, a guest at the hotel, told The Orlando Sentinel he and his family were playing at the beach just hours earlier. I lived across South Dixie Highway from the Miami Serpentarium. Res ( Because they wouldn't let me move here by myself.) When the show headed to Florida, Haast convinced his parents to let him go. I, and many other people, really enjoy reading the comments that are left under the photos. For the first five years Bill, Clarita, and his son were the only staff. But I remember leaning over the small wall to look closer at that croc when my feet slipped and I pitched forward towards the pit. Haast extracted venom 70 to 100 times a day from some 60 species of venomous snakes, usually in front of an audience of paying customers. "We know that there are crocodiles and burrows, but we don't have a notion or a pattern to work on.". The Serpentarium was a magical place and Mr. Haast was a very interesting fellow. "I just have a curious nature," he said. In the 1970s, along with his friend, respected Miami physician Ben Sheppard, Haast distributed PROven, a venom-based serum. I read the part of this article where Mr. Haas had to shoot an allegator because a boy fell into the pit and the alligator ate him (is'nt that what allegators do eat anything including yu?) At the time of the TV airing Mr. Haast was 87 years old and quite handsome he looked no older that early 50s. I have returned to see his show at thye Serpentarium and have watched him with his wife on the Merv Griffith show & others ( I think also the Jonny Carson Show) many years later. People were always getting bitten, but they are so small that they rarely killed anyone. A doctor at the hospital where the boy, was taken said the child was practically dead on arrival from drowning in association with multiple traumatic injuries., See the article in its original context from. That applies to the many other wildlife that existed back then. Responders at Disney World searching for boy who was dragged into a lagoon by an alligator. He placed a live, non-venomous snake into one of the supposedly empty boxes to be cleaned. ''Failing at this is one of my biggest regrets,'' Haast said. Haast is still trying to prove a point: He'll go to his grave believing venom can heal. As I was sitting there I heard a big CHOMP and turned around to see one huge animal falling back into the pitmissed me by about a foothorseshoes and hand-grenadeseh? I regretfully declined. 2, my first Indigo. It taught me an important life lessons about fearto just face fears because most of the time our anxiety really isn't worth it. I well remember Bill Haast and his snake "milking" shows. He could not have been nicer to us and spent some time talking to us. I cant imagine what those parents are going through. Jim F. Thank you for bringing back many many wonderful memories. Mr Haast came out at my parents request after thrilling us with a great show. But he still wakes up each morning to turn snake venom from across the globe into freeze-dried powder for medical laboratories. With his certification, he moved to Miami to work for Pan American World Airways. He loved his animals and was deeply committed to bringing them to the world in an educated, and respectful manner. Watching Bill milk then tube feed special formula into those angry hooded cobras he'd take out of the boxes is something I will never forget. He didn't do it out of anger because the crocodile was just doing what comes naturally to him, Clarita Haast said. LIVES SAVED But if a life was lost at the Serpentarium, Haast wants it known that transfusions from his immunized blood to snake victims helped save 21 lives. Keep it up Mr. Haast. His unique contribution to medicine earned him widespread recognition. Crowds cheered as he collected venom from the snakes in dramatic displays. The giant concrete-and-stucco cobra was donated to South Miami Senior High but fell apart during its move to the school. But at the Serpentarium, there was a monster 14 foot rattlesnake from upper Florida, probably from around the Gainesville area. Every week, Haast still injects his arm with a cocktail of venom from five snakes -- cobras, mambas, kraits, cottonmouths and rattlesnakes. This time it came out! Like for so many others, the Serpentarium was a place of wonder for me in my youth. But Jonas Salk produced a polio vaccine in April 1955, ending Haast's first effort to turn venom into a miracle drug. So, on a trip to visit my parents in Miami, when Scot was two (1977), we took him to the Miami Serpentarium. They had the best house! It was an incredible place. Senseing this the king made an immediate move toward the door to challenge. Anyone can read what you share. My girlfiends and I would catch 7 - 8 foot Indio snakes and we would beg my mother to drive us over to the Serpentarium so we could sell the snakes to Dr. Haas. Earlier on Wednesday, Orlando authorities told reporters there was no question that the young boy was dead. Thank you Diana, and all the other folks who have posted, for posting your personal memories of Bill Haast and your insights that the general public would never know about if you hadn't written in. Set in the American South in the 20th century. I grew up in North Miami Beach and remember going to the Serpentarium many times, but my favorites were Sundays when the King Cobra came out. The man who mesmerized generations of paying customers from 1947 to 1984 by extracting venom at his Miami Serpentarium as a spine-tingling South Florida attraction is dead. An eight-year-old boy in Costa Rica was brutally dragged underwater and mauled to death by a crocodile in front of his horrified parents. Alexander DeMella, who was watching the events unfold from his Disney balcony, told news.com.au that resort staff and authorities had said no one is allowed on the beaches at this time. Not sure she had quite the same fascination that I did but it's still very memorable. "It was his adopted city. Bowker, of New York, pleaded guilty for his role in arranging for 22 snakes to be delivered to the Serpentarium in an apparent swap for the same number of American alligators. His wife Ann did not approve, and they eventually divorced. When I was a child in the 1950's, Mama made us stay in the house. REMAINS of a fourteen-year-old boy have been pulled from inside a crocodile's belly after he was eaten alive. In 1990 he moved to Punta Gorda, Florida, with his snakes, where he established the Miami Serpentarium Laboratories. Occasionally the digitization process introduces transcription errors or other problems; we are continuing to work to improve these archived versions. I remember in 3rd grade, back in 1960, one of my classmates dropped her purse into the crocodile pit. The 2-year-old boy grabbed by alligator at Disney hotel has been found dead, a source says https://t.co/SyWdOq9L87 https://t.co/xLMVr0orfE. Very cool regular people with a very irregular life and lifestyle.loved them..they enriched my lifewould love to see how big the oaktree is now that grew up through their pool screen enclosure. I will admired and respect this wonderful human being for the rest of my life. I gathered from what he said that it would not bother him in the least were this variety of snake removed from its separate classification and returned to the larger taxon from which someone had extracted it. Devastated villages shouted the name 'Dimas' in hope of the boy still being alive as the crocodile was hauled ashore. If you are the site owner (or you manage this site), please whitelist your IP or if you think this block is an error please open a support ticket and make sure to include the block details (displayed in the box below), so we can assist you in troubleshooting the issue. RESEARCH WAS GOAL For Haast, the bites, the snakes and the Serpentarium were only a means to an end. He was a great neighborhhod Dad, and I will always remember the fun we had with he, his wife and his children. I have watched tv programs about him on Animal Planet and the Discovery Channel. Bill was like a super hero to me as a kid. Five alligators have already been caught in the lagoon and euthanised for analysis. I visited the Serpentarium two time back in 1958 and 1967, it was a very interesting place to tour. Good memories of a time long ago. In 2002 a 23-year-old German tourist was killed in Kakadu National Park by a 15-foot, 1,100-pound (4.6-meter, 500-kilogram) saltwater crocodile when she disregarded warning signs and went for a . This is a digitized version of an article from The Timess print archive, before the start of online publication in 1996. He became interested in snakes while at a Boy Scout summer camp when he was 11 years old. Later that day, boy did he get back at the girl that had done this. Haast could not make the ceremony, so part of the ceremony came to him. He applied the standard snake-bite treatment of the time (making crossed cuts over the fang marks and applying potassium permanganate) and then walked four miles to the camp's first aid tent, by which time his arm was swollen. My father used to deliver popcorn to the Miami Serpentarium in the late 60's early 70's and I used to love to watch Mr. Haast handle the King Cobras. Haast retained custody of their son, Bill Jr. and continued to work as a mechanic for Pan Am while he built the Serpentarium. My granddaddy was Robert Kundtz, horticulurist. I believe he gave them some of his blood with the anti-bodies and that saved their lives. Haast saw that a boy had fallen into the crocodile pit. The victim, identified as Stambuli Bamusi, along with his friends, had gone . As time went on, I read about Bill now and then, such as when he was bitten by the Gaboon viper in the 1970s, and a few other dangerous ones. But none the less just because Mr. Hass felt bad about what happened he, Haas, shot the alligator for no reason. Haast's hands suffered venom-caused tissue damage, culminating in the loss of a finger following a bite from a Malayan pit viper in 2003. ''It was the best snake show there ever will be,'' said George Van Horn, a frequent visitor who now runs a similar attraction in Central Florida. THRIVING BUSINESS Despite the medical debacles, the Serpentarium continued to flourish. I would take the rattlesnake skins and rub salt into them to try to preserve them. His take on the matter was generally to the effect that the placement of this variant of the common black racer into a separate subspecies status seemed dubious. Authorities contacted the boys family to express their condolences, Sheriff Demings said, adding there is no question we will lose a two-year-old child. In his case, he claims the venom has helped him live a long and healthy life -- with the exception of his snakebitten hands. In 2019 The Sun reported on the tragic death of a boy, ten, who was killed by crocodile after being dragged from a boat in front of his horrified family. After Bill sold the Serpentarium, our 12,000 sq.ft. I have Ophidiophobia (not herpetophobia the fear of reptiles) a true fear of snakes. I grew up near the Serpentarium , and played baseball @ Suniland Park..Many times during games , an iguana that had escaped from the serpentarium , would run across the field..As kids , we too ,sold snakes to the facility , and we managed to see the show several times a yearwe would ride our bikes to Parrot Jungle and the Serpentarium and see all kinds of rare wild animals and snakes , and birds , then fish salt or fresh water within a few miles of homegreat place to grow up in the 60's. Thanks for the memories, as Bob Hope would say. 10 junio, 2022 the contact angle on a thigh and drive tackle is. A small alligator, maybe 5 foot with tail had gotten loose and was wandering. Horses had developed resistance to the poisons through the same process, and the blood of those horses was used to create life-saving antivenin. It remains in my library to this day. Bill Haast and a cobra at the Miami Serpentarium SW 128th Street and South Dixie Highway, Dade County, Florida Thank you to Alvin Lederer for contributing this old image. My friend Jim Danaaldson who procured and trained animals for the film industry had set up a Reptile Exposition at Devonshire downs and I was an exhibiter . However, sometime in my teens I developed a real fear of snakes, somewhat unusual since there were no poisonous varieties in my area. I am so glad to have found this site. Nationwide News Pty Ltd 2023. The boy's father and another man, Nicolas Caulineau, jumped into the pit and straddled the crocodile. . From Dadeland areafor you have info, on this still. By 1984, interest in such roadside attractions like the Serpentarium had waned. Thanks for the wonderful memories and great work you have done. I never forgot Mr. Haast and his snakes, and, to this day, I am not scared of snakes or any other animals. Part scientist, part entertainer, Haast spent his early years in Miami as a mechanic for Pan Am, while he built the snake farm he called The Serpentarium along a portion of U.S. 1 that is today called Pinecrest. I remember those two huge crocs, one Nile and one American. Lots of people like me. And we often talked of many things when she came in to South Dixie Amoco to have the well-maintained car serviced. Authorities said the boy, who fell about three metres, was expected to recover after being picked up and dragged by Harambe for about 10 minutes. Sheriff Demings said this type of thing had never happened before in Disneys 45 years of operations. When we got the photos back, the film was sun damaged, so the next year I went back to hold the Indigo again and friend, Dave took the picture. Funny thing is, he had different ideas about that. When I was a little girl, we lived in Kendall. "My So-Called Life", pg. We lived in Southern California. Staff at the resort were unwilling to comment on the incident. Finding this site reminds me what saints my parents were! That might have occurred, since some recent field guides I have examined do not include haasti. "I know a lot of people in Miami still remember the Serpentarium and wonder what became of me," he said, "that's why I'm talking to you.". When I was young I was always interested in snakes. Ricky Ganya was last seen collecting snails on a riverbank in Kuching, Malaysia, He shot the 1800-pound crocodile nine times with a Luger pistol, yet it was still an hour before it died. For years, Haast tried to prove that venom could treat multiple sclerosis, lupus, arthritis and Parkinson's disease. An eight-year-old boy was dragged underwater and mauled to death by a crocodile in front of his horrified parents while paddling in shallow water in a river near his home in Costa Rica. Bill's dedication to helping science, medicine, and snakebite victims was always unwavering. We had an African Ball Python that had stopped eating, and I remember bringing it with my father to have it fed. "We're the only fire-based response team in the world." WHEN WE WENT TO THE SERPENTARIUM, WE WERE IN THE CROWD WITH MOSTLY OUT OF TOWNERS. I was a good friend with Bill Haast's grandson Willie, He and I would catch snakes and bring them to the Surpentarium, I also would go camping in the everglades with Willie and his sister pinkie and their mom and dad, we would swim in the water around gaters and catch snakes. Every so often the evening news would announce "Bill Haast had been bitten by a poisonous snake AGAIN." Today, Van Horn owns Reptile World Serpentarium near St. She took over, and the show went on without a hitch. In the area of the Serpentarium, pigmy rattlesnakes abounded. While the rest of the crew was out having fun in the exotic locales, he bought exotic snakes. This is a digitized version of an article from The Timess print archive, before the start of online publication in 1996. A crew of more than 50 people, including experienced alligator trappers and sheriffs department divers using sonar equipment, helicopters and boats searched the network of man-made canals, ponds and lakes to recover the boys body. Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings confirmed that the toddlers body was found in the water about 3.30pm, local time, after more than 15 hours of searching the Seven Seas Lagoon in Orlando, Florida. I wish I could have taken my girls there! Inside the bag was a cardboard box with holes in it. After his wife became pregnant, Haast lost his job when the speakeasy he was working at was raided by IRS agents. But Haast had detractors. Don Julio told the Mail Online: "The hardest thing for my wife was seeing the crocodile float with my son's body.". Haast eventually returned home, married and enrolled in airplane-mechanic school, but Florida called. His hands are gnarled and deadened, some fingers hang immobile, some look stunted in growth, and a pinky and index finger have been amputated at the knuckle, photographs taken by his wife reveal. Its very surprising, its an extremely rare occurrence in anywhere you have alligators, but we do ask people to be mindful that we do have alligators in the water in Florida and you have to be careful, Mr Wiley said. Like I said, we were always grabbing any snakes we came across, and one day finally got a Moccasin. The attraction had a gift shop, 400-pound turtles, a 20-foot-long python. Look at how big the transplanted Pythons get and that they thrive and fight the alligators in the Everglades. Haast and his teenage son, Bill Jr., began constructing snake pits, the beginning of the Serpentarium. I rememer Bill Jr. when we rode motorcycles in scramble races out in North Dade. The incident did not end Haast's interest in venom research. "He was into it for the science on how snake venom affected the body," said the grand-niece who worked at The Serpentarium as a teen in the 1980s. For some in Miami, though, the whole debate has stirred up painful memories of another tragic incident. Well, my mother went on a vacation to the Miami area. I am a big guy and I thought we could easily hold him still. In 1982 when I was twelve I moved from England to Hollywood, Fl with my family. Tatiana Daz, regional director of the Limn Red Cross, has tried to explain the attack. It's been five years since an alligator snatched 2-year-old Lane Graves who was playing on the beach at Walt Disney World's Grand Floridian Resort and Spa, dragging the boy into the Seven Seas . The concrete & stucco cobra was the second icon of the Serpentarium. He landed a job with Miami-based Pan American Airways. In the past week, The Voice singer Christina Grimmie was shot dead and 49 people were also killed in Orlandos Pulse nightclub by gunman Omar Mateen in a terror attack. In August 2020, the remains of a 14-year-old boy were cut from a crocodile's stomach after the reptile ate him alive. MIAMI, Sept. 3 (UPI)A 6yearold boy tumbled into a crocodile pit at the Miami Serpentarium today and a 14 foot, 1,800pound African crocodile snapped its jaws around the child's. While on my honeymmon in Orlando we rode down to Miami to the Serpentarium and watched Bill milk some snakes. Haast caught his first snake at 7; his first serious bite was at 12. A wealthy lawyer who killed his wife and son at close range has been sentenced in one of the most troubling cases the judge said he had seen. In the early 1970s, I was carrying out a survey to document the status of certain native reptiles and amphibians of a seven-county area iof siytgh Florida. And a bit crazy. Apparently the damaged tail had to be amputated afterwards. I used to take the snakes I would find to a lady named Alma Bishop, who had a little shop in the Flamingo Bar. I couldn't take the anti-venom so Dr. Haast instructed the hospital on how to treat me. As a result of the damage, Haast gave up handling venomous snakes, and no longer kept any at his facility. I liked that his shows were practical and informative with very little hype, but fascinating nonetheless. I remember one time that one got the better of him and bit him in the neck. A crocodile takes rest by the water at the Yala National Park in Colombo, Sri Lanka, on August 21, 2022. I would see him periodically. I don't remember how long he was but I DO remember how strong he was. Unfortunately, in 1977 a six-year-old boy fell into the crocodile pit at Miami Serpentarium and was killed by "Cookie", a 12-ft-long crocodile. "Not to mention pretty damn smart. On Thursday, members of the rescue unit came to shake Haast's hand. My father grew up and was born in Paterson, as well. I followed his instructions and he was right. Alligator seen dragging child into the water. As a kid, it was a thrill to see the man himself up close. on. I am transferring my old pictures to new albums and came across our photos at The Serpentarium in 1973 when we were there with our family while on vacatin. Besides the mayor's key, they gave him a firefighter's helmet bearing the unit's name: Venom 1. The event left Haast shaken and the next day, he shot the 1800-pound crocodile nine times. It had been bit my Cookie while trying to stop Cookie from getting out on US1.Also their pet lion jumped across the roof of the Shelby and the chain scratched the roof. Since the county revived the antivenin bank in 1998, it has saved 1,000 snake-bite victims, Seigert said. In 1980 we took my late husband who had ALS (Lou Gerhig's Disease) to the Miama Clinic where. As a girl in the early 60's, I lived down the block from Dr Haast and his family. Mr. Hasst brought out a huge 16 foot long King Cobra and kept it controlled on the lawn in front of us. American Model Killed By Crocodile In Australia - YouTube 0:00 / 1:46 American Model Killed By Crocodile In Australia Strange Deranged Unexplained 1.08K subscribers 743 80K views 11. "[7], Haast turned 100 in December 2010[10] and died on June 15, 2011.[1]. Hanley "Doc" Harding, Aurora Protection Specialists. ''I could become a poster boy for the benefits of venom,'' Haast jokes. Thank you, Dr. Haast, for all your good works and trailblazing in this still to be fully recognized work.and for the fascinating memories. brightcove.createExperiences (); The toddler who was snatched by an alligator at a Disney resort in Orlando, Florida, on Tuesday, died as a result of . the shows were fantastic , there was so much to explore everything was clean and the whole haast family were always charming.my family became amateur experts on exotic snakes and have read and watched everything we could over the years.but nothing ever compared to mr. haast. Im standing outside watching them search for someones baby, she wrote on Twitter. A 6-year-old boy fell into a crocodile pit and was killed. Originally, the shots immunized Haast against snake bites, an occupational hazard. On the 2nd trip, an entire day was planned for me there. https://t.co/suskABi6UPhttps://t.co/AfEdaZei5G. I think that this Dr., was loved by thousands of Miamians, because of him lives are save. I thought that was pretty cool back then, and still do. Two men came to our house, & they had a hook on the end of a pole, & a cloth bag, & they soon had the brightly colored but deadly snake in tow. The original cobra was a metal structure that was twisted into oblivion by a rare tornado in the late 50's or early 60's. Dr. Ben Sheppard mentioned in the article helped me with my drug addiction in 1974. Thank you for reminding me about this incredible man. Haast added a snake exhibit to the business. I remember Cookie on the lawn, too! They paid my mother something like $10 or more for the snake. He was bitten for the first time at summer camp a year later, when he tried to capture a small timber rattlesnake. Most people working in the biological field take some pride in having a species or subspecies named for them, but Haast seemed to have none of that. ''I know a lot of people in Miami still remember the Serpentarium and wonder what became of me, that's why I'm talking to you,'' said Haast, who would only be interviewed by telephone. At first he believed his immunization to cobra venom would protect him from the krait venom, and continued with his regular activities for several hours. He was able to identify the type of snake that bit me by the bite marks. carpet warehouse became the new home for several large ( 2 to 4 foot ) lizards, which I guess, were living in the trees and were never captured. Shame on Hass and the parents this poor animal was slaughtered. Oh my gosh..I worked on Bill and Nancy's house in P.G 15-20 years agomold issueshumidity problems..put an air exchanger in their snake area to control odorbut had strict guidelines to maintain high humidity. Join half a million readers enjoying Newsweek's free newsletters. C.C. other sizes: small original auto previous | next Unless otherwise noted under the right bottom of the photo, all images are copyrighted by Don Boyd comment | share I didn't know what to do with it, so I call the Miami Serpentarium. That was South Dade, Florida, relatively free of the most venomous snakes because Bill Hass and the Serpentarium. But I always felt I would live this long. Zoo director Thane Maynard said the zoos dangerous animal response team decided the boy was in a life-threatening situation and they needed to put down the 200kg male gorilla. While there, he ended up rooming with a moonshiner on the edge of the Everglades, and became proficient at capturing all kinds of snakes. haasti is different from the parent species only by virtue of an unusual configuration of white coloration on the head and chin. Luckily I caught myself in time to stop myself from falling in. When we said goodby, I knew this was a moment I would remember for the rest of my life. From The Miami Herald, August 3, 2006 FLASHBACK | THE MIAMI SERPENTARIUM 'Miami snakeman' is 95 and still injects himself with venom BY LUISA YANEZ lyanez@MiamiHerald.com IN PUNTA GORDA: Bill Hasst sold his Miami Serpentarium site in Pinecrest in 1984, and settled in southwest Florida. Read More on The US Sun. According to eyewitnesses, the toddlers mother, Ms Graves, was playing with him at the time and also dived into the water. But there is no reason to visit Miami. The Serpentarium's landmark 35-foot-high, hooded, concrete-and-stucco cobra stuck out its forked tongue at motorists and arriving patrons on South Dixie Highway and Southwest 126th Street. A Disney spokeswoman did not go into detail about the tragic incident but said the resort was devastated and was helping the family and authorities. THE body of a two-year-old boy snatched by an alligator at a Disney resort has now been recovered. by | Jun 10, 2022 | flying saucer bar locations | metro flexline service manual | Jun 10, 2022 | flying saucer bar locations | metro flexline service manual But he felt he couldn't continue to feed the crocodile and display him under these conditions.. . The boy and another friend decided to go . Convicted murderer Alex Murdaugh has been sentenced to life in prison for killing his wife and son. As he announced at the time, Bill killed the croc because he did not want her to become the inevitable freak show instead of a crocodile.Neither revenge nor stress induced fuzzy thinking was involved. The crocodile is believed to measure 2.5 to three . On September 3, 1977, a 6-year-old boy sitting atop the wall surrounding the Serpentarium's alligator and crocodile pit fell into the pit, and a 12-foot crocodile lunged ten feet and grabbed the boy. Still remember running a service call on a friday night for a NO COOLto be met by a Llama (male) at the entry gate who put his massive head through my truck window and pinned me against my seat..Nancy told me he liked me but to come back because she was delivering a Llama "cria". I got excited thinking it was a new toy. In April 2010, a 25-year-old woman from New Jersey was killed by a . A second boy, 15, was bitten but escaped. I don't remember which one was the infamous "Cookie". great childhood memories spent there with my family , i remember getting goose bumps when we would see the cobra statue. If snake venom holds the secret to a long life, then Bill Haast had the magic. Sheriff Demings identified the young boy as two-year-old Lane Graves of Nebraska, whose parents are Matt and Melissa Graves. I visited the Serpentarium in the late 70s on a trip down to Key West. Thinking back, that have been Cookie. Palm vipers. He was carrying a snake-bite kit, and had a friend inject him with antivenom; the bite hospitalized him for a week. I remeber in 1970 when I went to JFK junior high in miami we went on a field trip to the serpentarium I am now 50 years old and never forgot the place.I did make a serious mistake while there that people I tell find hard to believe.there was this hudge round pit with a wall around it, in it was what looked to me like a large stone grey statue of a crcodile well I went in there touched it and one eye opened and I was out of that pit like a rocket.this crocodile was at least 15 feet long it must have been sleeping lucky for me.Bill left a lifetime of memories for a 13 yearold kid the man truely is a legend that has no equal in the reptile world. russell county ky net profits license fee return, winscp turn off setting permissions, anthony villanueva florida,