So, my husband filled it out with the lady standing at my front door. I received a phone call from the bureau asking me to read them the info because there were only two days left to respond. Fix this problem, fix that, insure this, promise that, but do it without any info, just throw a dart and hope for the best, then when it fails we'll have someone to blame it on, but it won't be our fault! Did not need the closing statement. When I said I would not be probed by his questions from the government and continued by saying that I meant no disrespect to him; however, I hate what the government is trying to do to us he responded. Although I suspect it's really only one or two of you. I received your American Community Survey some time ago, and shortly thereafter returned the survey, including only the information you are authorized to collect, and I am required to provide, per the requirements of Article I, Section 2, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution, that is, the number of persons in our household, for the purposes of proper apportionment of our US Congressional representation. It has taken almost two decades to get it to this point where something intelligent can actually be done to manage our mess. There are friends who ask me if I want to put up with the harassment from the government -wouldn't it be easier to just give in and give the information to them? I may answer the door this time, but my attitude is going to be that I won't allow this to cause me any more stress than deciding what toppings I want on my pizza. This is way too intrusive. They believe the survey asks for more information, and at a higher frequency, than the simple enumeration required by Article 1, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution. It is also known that the Bureau inadvertently posted sensitive information of over 300 innocent citizens. do i have right to due process? The Census Project works continuously to educate Congress about the critical importance of adequate yearly funding for 2020 Census planning and operations and for the American Community Survey. The American Community Survey releases new data every year, in the form of estimates, in a variety of tables, tools, and analytical reports. Many Supreme Court cases revolve around the privacy that a legal US citizen has and honestly, how the Census Bureau thinks that these would even be accurate answers is a joke! If you had a wife who had been sexually assaulted, would you want the time you left for and came home from work circulated? Video camera is by the door for the on-site contact which will be next. It's not good politics. They can't take my free will. I live in upstate New York and was just threatened that the census taker would be back with the police and his supervisor because I refused to fill out the form. I live in a high-rise condo building (where I rent), so let them come get me. The American Community Survey is conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau. In an age when the government has significant technological resources at its disposal to not only carry out warrantless surveillance on American citizens but also to harvest and mine that data for its own dubious purposes, whether it be crime-mapping or profiling based on race or religion, the potential for abuse is grave. She said they don't do that. When I saw the personal and invasive nature of recent Census, I was irate. I answered the questions on the Census that are Constitutional, and that is it. I did not ask for this; this is not an application for credit. and inviting me to contact them if I had any concerns. What a bunch of paranoid people you are. A week later, the same worker showed up and said it was my last chance or I could be fined and possibly jailed. But I guess they probably figured that out, so decided to send it to only 2.6 percent of the population at a time. When they arrive on your property, order them off your property. That's four times today and it's just past noon on Saturday. So glad I came across this website while researching whether or not I had to respond to this stupid ACS I just got in the mail. Why don't you post the number in your family, their names, ethnic profile, give us your address and then, we will consider giving merit to your post. If you waiver or hide, they will keep trying. This is about a rental property that is currently empty and was on April 1, if that really means anything. I received the ACS invasion of privacy letter on my door yesterday. What time did this person usually leave home to go to work last week? Anytime you give out information, you can bet it gets compromised. We are getting a camera for the outside of our home this week, so we will be ready. to be human so be sure to count them in as well! In other contexts, the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that citizens have no obligation to answer questions posed by the government and are free to refuse to do so. I just left a "Tea Party" I found out I'm not the only 1 that was asked to fill out two census forms, one asking me if I could go up and down stairs, how long it takes for my husband to go to work, how does he get there,how many rooms is in my house, do I have flush toilets, what kind of health insurance, how much is my house payment, insurance on my house, do I have insurance, etc. I suspect the caller will hang up and take you off the list. Share the creative ways you use American Community Survey data to make decisions. Has anyone really admittedly shown that proof that they got fined? I said yes for about the third time and hung up. A: The U.S. Constitution requires that a decennial census be conducted every ten years for the purpose of making an actual enumeration of the persons within each state. I found out on a different blog that the OMB# on the front of my ACS is expired. I'm sorry but this survey almost asks me how many times I pee in a day. I told that I had already fulfilled my Constitutional duties as a citizen with my mailed-in short form, and then told her the ACS and her harassment of me in my home is unconstitutional. Poster 209: I believe that it is better to clearly refuse up front. I told her to get a US Marshal with a warrant. I will report her actions to our manager and possibly to her supervisor. Let them in and then fart really loud. What I want to know for sure is: Can they make, force, and punish you for not filling out this thing? I will fill it out and send it back to Census Bureau but I won't feel good about it. Get your head out of the clouds and step into reality. Why don't they survey me to find out my opinion on illegal immigrants, unemployment benefits to people who have barely held a job down in their life, giving child care benefits to unwed mothers who just keep popping out babies to numerous baby-daddies, who will never pay into the system so that I can collect Social Security when I want to finally retire after 50 years of non-stop work,or putting this country into mega-debt while giving money to impoverished countries that will never help us or appreciate us. Isn't this trespassing? No need to respond to the intrusive survey. I don't see what the big deal is. I took the job because it pays really well. I thought Hitler was stopped. This scared him and on top of that, he did not know most of the answers to the questions. Are you willing to roll the dice that this information will remain protected? U.S. Census Bureau Notice and Consent Warning You are accessing a United States Government computer network. [8] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Ancestry.pdf. We do not have to fear picking up the phone or answering our door. There is an actual law on the books, but that law has never been applied. I told her the story and said I didn't have time for this right now. No one I have talked to since I received this survey has known anything about it. [15] The ACS questionnaire also demands that persons divulge how many automobiles they own[16] and whether you have trouble getting up the stairs. I assume that's why they have come again. I got the ACS forms and I am scared to be fined. We are so far from what our forefathers prayerfully constructed as a government that it will take a real miracle from heaven for a national revival now. She said she must have my name, home address which I gave. As one responder put it, if you only want to know the number of people, then what does race have to do with it? I didn't believe him until he showed me the book. I responded to the ACS. A March 2021 national survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation showed that of 1300 HCWs, 48% had not received the COVID-19 vaccine. Some hypothesize that the Census Bureau will not take legal action against, or pursue fines for, noncompliance with the ACS because doing so would likely attract much negative media attention. That's exactly the number printed on the lower right had corner of my ACS form. Not to mention the ethnic origin of any person on a questionnaire is profiling a house. I've been through one round of the no-response ordeal back in '08 and everything turned out just fine. Since my alleged representatives repeatedly respond to my complaints about their actions, with form letters explaining why they hear my views but plan to ignore them and do what they want to do instead, I hear the government wants my information and plan to do what I want to do instead. This survey is one of only a few True Nazism at its finest. The ACS is a legitimate survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau, which is part of the Department of Commerce. I will fill in my name, address, and very few pieces of information. An official website of the United States government. These people are trying to "do their jobs", but there are better ways to make a living, one that doesn't help enslave Americans even further with more "government help" and ultimately, taxation. How many is all they need to know. We have always taught him not to talk to people he does not know and never give out information. Get over yourselves. I answered nothing else and therefore did not lie on a government form. With two teen daughters, I don't want anyone having any extra information. 2d 570, 572 (N.D. This is a violation of our privacy and a malevolent use of government power. [25] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Sex.pdf. Tells the stories behind the numbers in a new inviting way. on the back it says dec 31 2011 is when approval from OMB expires. "; "How many times a day do you fantasize about blowing up a federal building? We told a census worker to come back on Friday at 6 p.m. Call your senators and congressman now and lets get these commie creeps out of our lives and off our backs. "When the people fear their government there is tyranny. I have written both my senators, Warner and Webb of Virginia, and stated my refusal to comply with the ACS. And when I'm asked what my address is, I'll respond with, "I pay taxes, look it up.". I've been in some pretty terrifying situations and I don't scare that easily. In 2000 I placed a large sprinkler by my front door. Beyond principle, I work in the defense of our nation as a senior leader and have good reason to be concerned. Release Calendar Top 250 Movies Most Popular Movies Browse Movies by Genre Top Box Office Showtimes & Tickets Movie News India Movie Spotlight. Ask yourself this question. But not allthat other information. Call your local U.S. congress member. Shame it's only once every ten years. We randomly sample addresses in every state, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. Don't believe that the government does not already know exactly where that money is needed. I sure am glad I ran across this site. Survey questions were proposed by health care workers within each dialysis unit. I can just feature a call stating: If you can't walk up and down stairs, maybe we should think about asking if you are a useful citizen and do you need to be wandering around loose. The public also plays a role in the erosion of our judiciary. Complete this form and mail it back as soon as possible. When they ask for race, that's what gets me. I am just not going to answer any questions. However, the gap between homeownership rates not only persists, but has grown. I feel empowered. I intend to scan the thing and email it to everyone I know, plus my congressman and senators. I have half a mind to call the local news media and tell them this story. But it hasn't ever needed to be collected by a government agency that is supposed to serve WE, the people and then threatens us with fines, treating good citizens like criminals (I thought counting people was like one, two, three, four,?). There, I think I got my point across. A study published in 2021 by the Williams Institute at UCLA School of Law found that transgender people in the United States are more likely to be violently attacked than cisgender people. I am a patriot. The ACS purpose is to collect demographic data only. Fine. When I did return it, I left off my personal business. [30] The Census Bureau also maintains that responding to the ACS is mandatory and that recipients are legally obligated to answer all questions.[31]. When he refused, the employee turned up twice unannounced at my apartment, demanding entry, and warning me of the fines I would face if I didn't cooperate.[35] Only after he filed a complaint with the Census Bureau did the agency realize he had actually completed the survey, thus ending its attempts to enter his home. Whats next from our GOVERNMENT; the police saying your papers please? This government is OUT OF CONTROL! That means *not* having our door pounded on constantly and yelled at that we are violating the law by not allowing these rude, despicable low class jerks into our homes! Poster 235 is on to something: maybe my neighborhood can get a new school, a new hospital, and a new fire station. Ridiculous. Others have reminded me that this information about me is posted out in the paper world, cyber world, etc., somewhere. In a 13-page order, United States District Judge David G. Estudillo found that the federal government never subjected the plaintiffs, who refused to take the American Community Survey (ACS), to a genuine threat of prosecution. As a result, the judge wrote, the plaintiffs claims are not ripe for review., A key contention between the parties was whether the government communicated to the plaintiffs a specific warning or threat of prosecution over their refusal to fill out the ACS. she wouldnt tell him who she was and kept insisting to come in. this implies you have obligations to help the government count but not to answer every intrusive question they might ask. From what I've read online about the operation methods of the Census Bureau staff that won't have any chance of avoiding a phone call "Computer Aided Telephone Interview" But I'm hoping that by telling them every time that their OMB# is expired it will shorten my interview process somewhat. The census asks for the number of people who "stayed at your house on April 1, 2010." We filled in very basic info and did put in the drive times. The Census Bureau uses sampling methods to select households that represent a cross-section of the population of the United States. I filled out the form only giving the required information by law and that is how many people live here. The small, everyday, humdrum, quietly approved bills they do each day are where the danger lies and more attention should be paid to those. How about the number of cars that are normally in your driveway if everyone is home? They just look at you and say "Oh" and then walk away. If you are a business person you could benefit from having accurate demographic information for the United States. Im not and if their track record is any benchmark, nobody should. As stated in the US Constitution Article 1 Section 2: I only have to fulfill my duty as a citizen by helping you enumerate, and I'm not required to answer any questions until the next Census in 2010. The census collectors or enumerators can ask for some sensitive and detailed information, such as salary or income. Seriously, do I really have to answer and return the american community survey? You cannot be fined or worse for not filling out the survey. Some of you who refuse to return your forms could possibly look at it from a different angle. It seems when the phone number is given, that is when the harassment starts. When are they going to get the hint and stop? Plaintiffs do not allege Census Bureau representatives directly threatened them with prosecution, nor do they submit affidavits to that effect, Judge Estudillo wrote. Q: Is this an unconstitutional invasion of privacy? FCPS will be seeking input on the progress of this work via a survey for parents/caregivers and community members, and a feedback opportunity for staff. I say, good luck with that. It is widely known that in a five-year span the Bureau lost at least 672 laptops. I am looking into who passed legislation to approve this questionnaire. Those . I asked my accountant about them and he recommended not to fill them out. "Isn't that enough?" Ethical considerations. I agree with telling I live here, how many live here, as it's just counting folks to help with how many people have how many reps in congress and Senate. Get class action lawsuit news sent to your inbox sign up for ClassAction.orgs free weekly newsletterhere. We are still Americans and do not need to share personal information against our will. Estimates: 1-Year. Twice, a person showed up at our door. What was this person's total income during the past 12 months? We have been like a frog cooked in our own water slowly. There are even amendments to the amendments. The survey also asks how many bedrooms and bathrooms you have in your house, along with the fuel used to heat your home, the cost of electricity, what type of mortgage you have and monthly mortgage payments, property taxes and so on. While talking to the ACS lady on the phone I found out they didn't have a complete address and had sent me a form. I went through this myself and I read a Web forum that spanned several years with posters who had received the form, and what they had experienced. I pay my taxes honestly, obey the laws of the land, don't speed, don't spit on the sidewalk and I will always open the door for a lady. This makes no sense at all. [It does not appear that Census is proposing any changes to the ACS instrument.] so no more. Other articles have slanted this to be a case of "men marrying into money. Empowered by Congress with greater powers to amass information about citizens, the Census Bureau introduced the ACS in 2005. why are they taking polls for illegals? I will not yield. Attempting to use scare tactics to get personal information - nice. Further, congressional rules on enforcement were controlled by the Republican Congressional Committee overseeing Census Bureau Operations, when the Republicans controlled congress. I said I did not need any help. Its purpose is to keep people informed of what is going on in their local, state, or federal governments. No visits yet. I've since received a second one, and had one call this week(which I did not answer). I work for a defense contractor, and when I applied for a security clearance, there were way fewer questions, and much less invasive than were on the ACS long form. The information that they collect will be used against us in our most crucial moments. At 28 pages (with an additional 16-page instruction packet), the ACS contains some of the most detailed and intrusive questions ever put forth in a census questionnaire. You get the picture. No one from the Census has ever said they would come back with the sheriff - the sheriff would simply laugh at them if they ever asked. View All 26 Products. The second visit, I handed him a sealed census envelope, and he came back and left a note that the computer kicked it out. Unfortunately, the guy probably already knew the answers to some of the questions. Me and my family were properly counted on census day 2010. I was just contacted by a representative for the Census Bureau at my home and asked to answer his questions. I repeatedly told her that I gave the legal information I am required by law and that is how many people live here. (I was astonished to note that apparently only about 12,000 households have resisted so far.) I just moved to a suburb outside of Detroit after years of living there, and its strange but I also got 'grilled' the last time it came around. The Rutherford Institute has received hundreds of inquiries from individuals who have received the ACS and are not comfortable sharing such private, intimate details with the government or are unsettled by the aggressive tactics utilized by Census Bureau agents seeking to compel responses to ACS questions. I was told if I didn't answer then his supervisor would come out and if I didn't respond to his supervisor, they would return with a Larimer County Sheriff and then I would have to answer or else! Keep being sheep. We need to take a stand and not put up with all the socialist crap the government wants us to do. Amazing. We did not return the census, and received continuous letters and threats. They would have to take you to court, and they haven't done that EVER. In the current study . He came by every hour starting at 6 Thursday. (We filled out and mailed our census form as soon as we received it.) I want to know how long these temp workers are going to be employed? That this money is funding from the government, which makes it socialism. These "enumerators" aren't policemen and they can't make you answer their questions or let them into your house. As such, any attempt by the government to encroach upon the citizenrys privacy rights or establish a system by which the populace can be targeted, tracked and singled out must be met with extreme caution. OMG!! Now I wish I hadn't answered her on the phone. what the hell??? Polite, firm, refusal. The court agreed with the defendants contention that courts have consistently considered unripe for review cases wherein there was no specific threat of enforcement or history of prosecution under the relevant statutes.. "is your name blah blah blah?" I had already been a victim of identity theft. Especially after reading the comments on this page. For instance, the ACS asks how many persons live in your home, along with their names and detailed information about them such as their relationship to you, marital status, race and their physical, mental and emotional problems, etc. I will comply when they 1) remove the millions of illegals from U.S. soil, 2)oust criminals who do not even pay their taxes from political power positions, 3) listen to the will of their constituency and remember we are a "representative republic" not a "Banana Republic" 4) stop plotting the demise of American citizens with their plans for a Eugenicists health care plan. It's the amendments that congress is busy adding to the original Constitution while you guys are busy working, fishing, etc., instead of watching congressional actions on C Span or some such that are killing us and our rights. any lawyers looking for some pro bono work ready to take up this issue? Thank God I'm not the only one questioning the Constitutionality of this blatant invasion of personal privacy. The visits stopped, and I never heard from them again. But, (knock on wood again) no visits ever occurred (yet that is). I have been harassed day and night. This is Big Brother keeping an eye on the revolution. The reality appears to be that recipients can refuse to comply. About one month later I received a phone call from a supervisor. In 1960, the gap was . Help people, can I really get fined if I don't fill this crap out? This United States Supreme Court case has never been overturned. How much do I make per year? The following Q&A is provided as a resource to those who want to better understand their rights in respect to the ACS. But in this day and age, do you really believe by not taking the census that your personal information is more thoroughly protected? And if there isn't a law protecting these rights, then we need someone to make it happen! We live in a sanctuary city and those who work and pay taxes are supporting almost half of our population. The less you say to them the faster they stop bothering you. --Lazarus. I say, "I don't care who you are. Thank you for answering, I am grateful for this site, but hesitant to put email addy, or other info about me. Access American Community Survey data on the Census Bureau's new platform, data.census.gov. Our Constitution is being dismantled before our eyes, but this will be one stand we'll make and keep encouranging others to do the same. Do you think Cass Sunstein knowing how many people, of what age, have physical and emotional disabilities is for the benefit of your family? State citizens can help in this process by refusing to cooperate with federal demands (all of them). After spending almost an hour answering questions the first time the census take came to my house, they start calling me on Sunday afternoon -- enough is enough! If you believe you are being unduly harassed by a Census Bureau employee, either by telephone or in person, it is in your best interestto carefully document the time, place and manner of the incidents and file a complaint with the U.S. Census Bureau. Are you kidding? I was really hoping she would stick around and argue with me some more, I was kind of of enjoying it because I knew there wasn't anything she could do. The calls stopped and no one ever visited. I didn't hear from them for about two weeks. I ignored all of them. Where did they get the data? Even in police states, they don't ask these questions asked by the Census Bureau for the ACS. [23] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Age.pdf. I'm a stay-at-home Momma with a toddler daughter. Condos hire people inside the condo as census people. Do not give them your info! When approached by census officials I will state that my religious beliefs prohibit giving any information beyond my name and the number of people in my house. The Census Bureau can't issue a fine, they have to refer the case to the Dept. Was the government going to send us all birthday presents when they came around? The last thing the execs at the Census Bureau want to see is a video of one of their "enumerators" on YouTube, the Six O'clock News, or in Congress or a courtroom harassing and threatening a citizen/voter with a big fine or jail time if that person refuses to give out the personal details of his life to a perfect stranger.