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I agree, lets drop the rocks and pray for Pastor Bob and his family. What are you talking about BD, the context was always Isaiah 11, I never made reference to Rev 5, you did, pulling a Jehovahs Witness move, instead of dealing with the passage, jumping somewhere that had nothing to do with the millennium that I was addressing, so you could try to prove your point, and your pretense at trying to be superior is typical of preterists when they cant defend their view! Get the latest updates in news, food, music and culture, and receive special offers direct to your inbox. 8:00AM. If Coy's resignation stunned his followers, it hasn't hurt Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale much in the long run. Dont go on sites like this where theyre sole purpose is to gossip and spread lies. Calvinism is not an eschatology though Calvinists tend to be almost anything other than pretrib premillennialists. Who made you Coys torpedo? 2Cor. # 8. I am not talking about positional but relational restoration. He never hid who he was," says Tina Rivera-John, who began attending Calvary in the mid-'90s when she was 12 years old. Church was in incredible debt via a terrible lease. Sad. Sorry Michael force not biting my tongue harder and spoiling your thread. So you are surely Martin Luthers disciple. Coy is exposed for his moral situation. After his preaching career ended, he landed work managing the Funky Biscuit, a nightclub in Mizner Park in Boca Raton. In my opinion, if he did this [to one victim], it's just a question of how many others are out there. not to cast doubt on your reporting or professional abilities, but this is a serious allegation, and deserves all investigation and information gathering before any public news report is made regarding the particularities of Mr. Coys problemsand those should remain between he and his family in any event! MLD wrote: so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. Ask your leadership why they arent telling you the whole truth. Check felony records of the school substitute teacher. I wish only good things for Lorenzo. This is a blog for scoffers, haters and mockers! So his wife and kids just need to realize that this is the reality of life and BC is no worse or better than the average man, perhaps even a better man a stronger man, who is going through this facing the ravenous wolves that most of you have become! In 2006, gubernatorial candidates Charlie Crist and Tom Gallagher personally pleaded for Coy's endorsement, though he declined. Were still worshiping the same old gods. He can survive this and serve the Lord. So Coy gets the pass because it is normal and I get the ridicule. 1. "Everyone was visibly upset," she wrote on Facebook, according to the Christian Post. Im praying for your kids tonight. Yes I am disappointed but Bob is a man. Sharon Leone (Diane Farr) is Vince's wife and the Chief of Division 1501 on the CBS original drama, Fire Country. In that you are named well. It must and does operate by the same worldly standards as any other corporation. They did not need a transformation gospel to know right and wrong and to choose to do good things. "I was really hurt. Let the people of God rally to those who are hurting and those who have been sinned against. Coy aligned his fledgling church with Calvary Chapel, a movement started in Southern California in the 1960s by Chuck Smith, a laid-back West Coaster who wore Hawaiian shirts while he preached a fire-and-brimstone, old-school religion. I will leave you alone to work on the Acts 2 passage it destroys the future 1,000 yr earthy reign. With MLD leading the way with his self righteous smug attitude! Which sin are you guilty of? These teachings which give rise to anti-Semitism and go against Gods word which says, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you, then yes that is garbage! They were about 630 employees last count. I have spent years hearing people around me saying, Bob Coy is so funny!, Bob Coy knows how to do church! ad nauseum. Michael can you confirm the involvement of Bob Barnes as someone who was instrumental in all this coming to light? Not only has she been publicly shamed, in front of her friends, family and all whom she held dear, but she has been shamed by a husband who found her lacking and inadequate. But just as a reminder, within that 2000 years is some good, and some very bad. I thought so. That is a bummer about Chet. But the case soon stalled. Stop this! What Coy did is wrong, he committed adultery. Coy sales millions and that has all changed. Most of the regular posters, find no glee in what has happened. This is a subject matter that is common and not just to Calvary Chapel but to all churches and to all spheres and walks of life, and something that no one has mentioned is the spiritual warfare we are in, and how anyone who is seeking to serve the Lord or preaches his word will be attacked, its not surprising that Bob Coy fell, what is surprising is that more men who are serving the Lord arent falling. His board are all obviously morons. The best counsel I received was to keep my eyes on Jesus and off of man. They have been taught by well-intentioned, thoroughly prepared, astute ministers who take their roles seriously. Jesus,Jesus, Jesus.in everything Ive read, not one has acknowledged that He died for this very reasonEVERYONE OF US IS GUILTY. Oh, he doesnt think that on the surface, but he knows what he is doing. I get no pleasure in pointing this out. The only thing that covers ALL of us who are fallen to begin with is the Blood of The Lamb of God which was shed at Calvary and that covers Pastor Bob right now too ! I have no issue with him looking at porn. I think he (Stanley) was the first to do this. We who are conservative Christians love to lecture the world about their sins. Coy is twisting in the wind. BC was seated at their table, even though they were new compared to others who attended for over 20 years at that point. Many months have gone by since then, and a few days ago I received a text from my friend in which she shared about Coys resignation/admitting to moral failure. I know nothing more then that he got caught. Oh, Florida of little faith! Coy was a conmanthis was going on for a long time and he was basically giving Jesus the finger?? Barbara #625. Sad but true. The word of God tells us, For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of Gods glorious standard.(Romans 3:23 NLT). The revelations come at a sensitive moment for Calvary's national network of about 1,800 churches, which have been riven by legal infighting and dogged by claims that bad pastors have been allowed to run amok. Its actually a struggle for you to keep your commitment to your wife? But, if he is restored he will be like Jacob who limped for the rest of his life after he finally won Gods blessing over his life. Nearly 18 years on and there is still so much for the Lord to heal. Not everyone should stay married for their reputation in a church. "If you're angry or you're disillusioned or you're fearful, if you embarrass yourself or you disappoint yourself he can take all the mess and turn it into something beautiful.". Is the IRS coming to take them to jail? Do you worship Jesus as God incarnate, The Lord, The Creator, The Giver of Life? I am just trying to do better myself. we were gone by then. The reason for the resignation is a "moral failing," according to Calvary Chapel leaders, as reported by the Christian Post. Whenever we see something like that on a show like this, it causes us to get concerned. Michael says: February 9, 2020 at 7:20 am. This post is the work of SATAN. His idea was a huge hit, one of the first in a wave that has become known as the Jesus movement. The Lord Knows. Not to stir strife, but some of us dont agree and wont be comfortable there. This isnt about me, and by making it about me, you bear false witness and sin yourself. really? The interpretation is right there in the text he is telling the listeners that they are witnessing that very event.. You can keep attacking Luther it doesnt phase me one bit. It was more of a suggestion, like getting in an office. Michael, how would you feel if you are saying was known and left a cyber carbon print? The victim wife of another scandal set up camp at a near by church SO if anyone can recommend a smaller church, please let me know. If they were told that , it is no secret where they are. I meant no disrespect. LOL. My walk with God is mine alone and that is why, respectfully, its none of your business. A core of my current belief system is that none are truly transformed when they are saved. At least it is for me. I blame myself somewhat for allowing myself to be afraid of confronting him since I had no physical evidence. That doesnt happen unless you do something really bad, not just adultery. BC is not a victim he is a victimizer. they were generous givers. well praying for you. That needs to stop and maybe this will be the watershed moment for that to happen. Unfortunately, his teaching was very shallow, and a tendency toward story-telling and stand-up comedy in favor of sound, Biblical doctrine was both offensive and disappointing to me. ", "Moses was the leader appointed by God," Smith told Christianity Today in 2007. A day with DC having make-up applied by a makeup artist. Even worse, they said church officials knew full well he was a pedophile: He'd been kicked out of another Calvary youth ministry in California after being charged with sex crimes there. Then non believers wonder why Christians are the only ones to kill their wounded. Daughter- Interesting because I understood that BC did not write his own sermons. I reacted in context of numerous other people who commented shortly before you who apparently excused Coys behavior or attacked people here for discussing the effects and ramifications of those choices. Im not going to print anything that I cant verify, but I have the same fears you do. All over FB all the loyal supporters from his church are posting what I view as self-righteous comments. Ive had so much calamity the last few years that a standard curse would feel like a vacation. He would regularly "finger and fondle her" genitals, make her touch his penis, and "dirty talk" to her. So they began to buy out failing churches in the area and use large screens. The last thing we need to do is turn on each other over this because first, There is nothing new under the sun Second, we have a whole unbelieving world out there that will be looking for an explanation and answers and we are focused on discrediting each other and being right??? Your right Dusty. Many members expressed disappointment, encouragement, and hope on the church's Facebook page. I digress. It never happened. Why do you deny it? Net Worth of Coy Gibbs-After the death of Coy, the citizens are sincerely interested to know about his net worth and constantly search on the internet. However, on mans side if Bob Coy were married to my sister, things would be different. I guess most of us would not have let Peter preach at pentacost so soon after denying Christ! @pierreduelz The duration of absence from leadership should be commensurate with the size of the flock he shepherded and the duration of the corruption.. Hugh if you are going to MOCK at least read the Bible before you mock people who do actually read it. At the friends suggestion, I tried to listen to one of his sermons in the hope that we could do a Bible study based on his exposition of The Word. In case of her demise, she promised not to file a lawsuit. I still have the cassette tape. Michael continues to be a blogger fail, spreading innacurate information, in hopes of being a journalist/blogger while these comments help sell him ads and he continues to beg for money via paypal on here. and they wonder why we need blogs, Blessings and sleep well big brotherlove you. I dont think any men are really qualified to be put up on that sort of mega-church pedestal. I have no crusading vendetta. 17 Let no one on the housetop go down to take anything out of the house. You will never be forgotten! How was this non bodied being bound with a chain? Even her real son couldnt muster any rage. I find it ridiculous to blame cheating on power and authority. A Calvary Chapel member named Rodger Thomas was arrested that year and charged with repeatedly molesting a 15-year-old girl at a high school run by the church. http://thelasthiker.wordpress.com/2014/04/06/pastor-bob-coy-the-church-adultery-consequences-and-grace/. He was discharged shortly after New Year's Eve, but was readmitted a few days later to Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital in Whittier, California. Why is same-sex marriage an issue in the election of the new Scottish First Minister? When you knowingly sin then, post-saved, you are willfully being an enemy of God and we all do it b/c we are all aware of our sin and we sin anyway. Please adjust your headline to resign. Lorenzo, Ive read all your posts and you are so full of hate and . You added the words SEVEN YEAR tribulation to that quote. Michael, We don;t argue we chat from different view points. This was the zenith of Jakes career. Psalm 34:17 The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles.18 The Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. I agree. Over the years he and other associate pastors hired family members and close friends. 2. In 1988, Coddington founded Boyd's Wheels, Inc. to manufacture and market his custom billet wheels. well obviously your information is wrong. Thak you for sparing me hahaha, I already had my sleep for the night, and for not trying to make me a Calvin disciple, I see how they turn out hahaha! #805 yeah considering that all of MIchaels info is inaccurate. People have confused us before and want to make sure I am not associated with his strange ideas. Accountability measures and shared power help mitigate both temptation and abusesin government and religion. Like. 2nd, I dont believe much that I see quoted on these rapture ready type web sites. Fact. Youre a special woman. The Asst Pastors are not as annointed or equiped imho- and frankly I cant deal with Chets over the top, Broadwayesque mannerisms read: distraction. Anyone know? People have gifts, given by God apt to speak is one of them. I just came across this blog and it appears to be hosted by a CCFL attendee. For the mature in Christit shows how the solid food does you well.please pray for all involved as you are doing. Im doubting your ability to graciously recognize that many other Christians have come to other conclusions using the same Bible as your own. Did he confess before or after he was busted? That was their choice, not mine. Whats the rationale for removing all of a guys teaching from the internet when he fails morally. (tvacute.com)Here we explained everything. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. It works so it is a kind of method of delivery now. I think I beat you to your passage and posting the Hebrew is a nice try for a save but to no avail. Your turn. This story broke yesterday morning online before I ever wrote a word. Many evangelicals get saved and still do the same sins as before or trade them in for worse sins. One adversary is seduction. You become an accuser of the brethren for the sake of your worship. I mentioned any fallen brother I dont care who it is, your Pharisaical attitude is what I condemn that emanates from your self righteous hypocritical stance that shows through once again as you try to put me in your box, sorry I dont dance your tune or fit into your little box! MLD #681. They ended up locked in dueling lawsuits, with the pastor accusing Calvary's leaders of skimming profits and the Smiths charging that he used his influence running the radio stations to pressure women into sex. YES and his congregation knows and it was handled perfectly. The devil is a liar and trickster but God is the truth and his will shall be done. I hope Joe Focht can get her story and reconsider the Moses Model and other vision casters in his region. Now, explain the literal meaning of the chain. Ill be blunt. The abuse lasted until she was a teenager, she told the cop. When confronted with his sin he stepped down, he could have fought it or refused to step down as many have, but he didnt. Because of this, I am no longer listening to Reach FM. The truth is we dont know very much and the only thing we can do is acknowledge what little facts we have here on earth: 1. Check out any of the Reformers on the anti-Christ, Michael wrote: Dispensationalism was unheard of until the 1800s. Lets let our new folks visit and vent. Lots of supportlots of informationas well as a lot of CC nuts. And Ill be glad to talk with you via Skype, FaceTime, or in person about my comments if we ever happen to be close enough to each other. Anyone can read it and see what was said. ", Like Smith, though, Coy used his relaxed persona to sell a deeply conservative brand of Christianity. Andy, now you are not being honest in fact you are being purposely dishonest. I cant believe that CCCM has changed that much since Chuck went Dodo bird. I'll never forget that meeting.". I must say that in knowing very little about the build up to this story, it appears that the church took much faster action in dismissing Coy than in the case of Mike Kestler.